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Old 08-05-2004, 12:30 AM   #101
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Ha ha! Well, you certainly make it easy then Fim! I guess don't mind the outline being vague in some areas, let's just be sure not to go two different directions at once. Who wants to recap then, before proceeding???
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Old 08-05-2004, 06:32 AM   #102
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Fimbrethil... you convinced me about the DA thing - as logn as Snape's teahcing, I think they'd continue. Even though I'm sure Snape's a great teacher... a bit unfair, but they could all learn a lot from him. More than from Harry.
But let's say they do continue with the DA.
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Well...I didn't mean to dictate...if you still don't agree then we could just leave that vague as well...but I do think Harry would keep it up just out of spite.....but I do think he will realize what you just said Rad....about Snape being the better teacher.
I don't mean that we just make somthing vague then leave until we read the book...I just mean finish it up somtime in the next century(no pun or ill will intended) which means that somethings will have to be vague...then if we have time we go back and vote or discuss or whatever it takes to make the thing not vague.
I would recap but I think someone whose been here for the whoel thread should do it.
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Yeah, same here. Being gone for 3 weeks has made me pretty much forget everything that's being done...

About the DA. If Rad says it's okay, then I suppose we should do it! That was a nice speech of yours, Fim!

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Yeah, I say it's okay.

I can't do it. Sorry... but I'm in Englanf right now (my homeland is Israel, I'm here for the rest of the month) and I have other things to do, in free time - which isn't much already. I'll do the 5 chapters after these, if you'd agree it to be ready in a month and a half or so.
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I already said that I'd do the next 5, Rad, so you don't have to worry about that. But like I said, I want someone who's been here the entire time doing the recap, or I know I'll leave stuff out. Once that's done, I'll get to work on the next chapters. So...Lizra? Anyone?

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Prediction Game book update:

Chap. 1: At the Dursely's, Harry whines some about being stuck there. We find out what it is Dudley saw during his previous Dementor attack. Harry's dreams of Lord Moldy Shorts are renewed and he is pissed.

Chap. 2: Harry ponders on what Dudley saw and wonders why his life sucks. (JKR said that this book would be the shortest summer at the Dursely's.) Lupin comes to Privet Drive and takes Harry to the Order of the Phoenix headquarters. We find out that Krecher has left Grimald Place to work for Narcissa Malfoy, since he technically belongs to her. But Kreacher is strictly forbidden to divulge any secrets about the OotP.

Chap. 3: Harry is filled in, and fills in his friends, and maybe they try out some advanced magic they've each learned over the summer. Harry gives the shattered two-way mirror from Sirius to a very curious Hermione. We find out that Harry is the new Gryffindor quidditch captin. Harry's OWLS scores are as follows:

Charms- O
Transfiguration- EE
Herbology- EE
Defense Against the Dark Arts- O+
Potions- scraps an O
Care of Magical Creatures- EE
Divination- P
Astonomy- P
History oMagic - P

(Remember, it's Outstanding (O), Exceeds Expectations (EE), Acceptable (A), Poor (P), Dreadful (D) and Troll (T).)

Some of Harry's classes this year are:

Defense against the Dark Arts
Transfigurations
Charms
Potions


Chap. 4: Harry learns somthing about his family and/or Sirius he didn't know before. Dumbledore comes and apolgizes again for not telling Harry of the prophecy, and he and Harry are buddy buddy once more. We hear about what Lord Moldy Shorts has been doing. We see Neville and learn (for a fact now) that his role has changed simply by the fact that his is invited to the Order Headquarters. Thus Harry gets a new friend (they were friends before but now they're closer becasue they're in the same boat.)

Chap. 5: They go get their books They visit Fred and George's shop. We also learn that their shop has been quite successful, and the twins are definitely not returning to Hogwarts. Enter the new and even more evil Malfoy, with new and more evil/angry mother. They do/say somthing VERY nasty and/or threatning, and rather ominous too!


Chap. 6: Sirius's will is read. Sirius made sure to update it and include Harry as his heir. It was very important to him. As a result, Harry inherits Grimmauld place. Harry is thrilled to have his godfather's home.

Chap.7: Professor Snape is finally allowed to become the instructor for Defense against the Dark Arts. He starts the dueling club up again, and always seems to set up Harry, Ron and Hermione in dangerous, stressful duels. Things are getting quite touchy and personal between Slytherin and Gryffindor, and Prof Snape seems to thrive on it.

Chapt. 8: Harry's dreams are being invaded by Voldemort, and Harry actually has a spell during the Halloween party where he starts spouting parsel tongue, terrifying everyone, and himself! Dumbledore brings in a MoM expert to continue Harry's very important occlumency lessons.

Chap. 9: Ginny Weasley has matured greatly over the summer, and Harry notices and developes a crush. Now it's his turn to act awkwardly around her! Ginny is preoccupied with her upcoming OWLS and doesn't appear to notice Harrys new attitude towards her.....yet....

Chap. 10: Several muggle-born Hogwarts students vanish mysteriously and the staff suspects port keys have been planted on the school grounds by Voldemort supporters. Where the muggleborn students are being transported to is unknown. This "problem" is kept hush hush, and the students dissappearance is explained as an "exchange transfer" with the other schools mention in GoF. Hagrid has his hands full trying to keep some of the creatures in the forest safe, and his giant half brother is suspected as a trouble maker.

Lot's left vague, ready for chapters 15-20!
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Old 08-06-2004, 12:27 PM   #108
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Thanks muchly Lizra! As I'm being kicked of the computer by the evil, cruel older sister soon (Just kidding!) I'm printing that out and going to work on it!
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Old 08-06-2004, 03:32 PM   #109
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Right. I've been working on it, and I have a few things dealing with the recap I need to ask before I post it-

Chapter 3: You mention them practicing magic, but as they are still underage, that's illegal. We should just get rid of that part I think.

Chapter 4: Maybe what Harry finds out is what his parents did for a living. Aurors, maybe? And what Voldie's 'been up to' could just be standard stuff (for him)- getting followers and attacking Muggle-born familes. And with Neville, maybe he and/or his grandma were in danger, so they were taken to hide in the HQ?

Chapter 5: I have a new idea for this chapter- I was thinking and I thought Snape should only teach DADA in the 7th book, so maybe he meets his new teacher here? He always meets the teacher before school, or at least hears about him, so maybe during the Malfoy/Harry cofrontaion, the new teacher shows up and breaks it up? Maybe he’s the HBP as well.

Chapter 6: In addition to leaving the house to Harry, he could also leave it to Remus. In that train of thought, I figured that maybe he could appoint Remus as Harry's gaurdian.

Chapter 7: If we're going to do what I said, with another DADA teacher, we need to introduce him here.

Chapter 8: Harry's occlumency teacher could be the DADA teacher, if, once again, Snape doesn't get it.

Chapter 9: We need more than him starting to like Ginny. Maybe something happens in a class or something like that?

Chapter 10: With the disappearences, are they all at once, or one by one? Also, does Hermione disappear along with them?

Sorry for all the questions, but it has to do with the plot...

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Old 08-06-2004, 07:00 PM   #110
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Let's see....

Chapter 3....They practiced stuff when they were in Dumbledore's Army didn't they? If they can't do it (practice magic) that's fine, no biggie....but tell me how they could practice last book?

Chpt 4....The Aurors bit is good with me. I would like more elaborate ideas for Voldemort, (sort of like the early bit in GoF) but Fim wanted to keep it sort of vague.... Standard stuff is okay, but a little boring IMO, and frankly, a bit unbelievable. The war has started! I would imagine Voldemort and his Deatheater's have been busy with a grand plan. Of course, this chapter doesn't have to be the one where it starts to show.....but maybe a little hint!?

Chapt 5....If you want a "new" teacher, I think you need to tell us who he/she is and describe them a little. I liked Snape, but if you can produce an exciting substitute, I'm ready to read it! I don't want to be vague about the DADA teacher though...we have to *commit* in someplaces.

Chapt 6...This could work I suppose.....

Chapt 10...just a few random dissapearances, maybe a "minor character" muggle born from each house...with Gryffindor being the last one left, and Ron going freaky cause he thinks it might be Hermione next.
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Old 08-06-2004, 10:09 PM   #111
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Chapter 3: They could practice since they were in school, but they can't out of school. That's why Harry had to go to court, remember.

Chapter 4: I know, of course they'd have a grand plan, but they wouldn't be displaying it everywhere, would they? This stuff Harry founds out if what they did publically.

Chapter 5: I kind of had someone in mind. A sort of handsome guy that all the girls fall in love with but change their minds when they find out he's strict. I was thinking someone kinda exotic, just because, so maybe someone who's like... Indian or something? Unfortunatly, I don't know any Indian names, so I'd need help with that.

Chapter 10: Okay. That's good, I was planning on having Hermione in anyway!

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Old 08-07-2004, 07:03 AM   #112
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Let's see:

Chapter 3 - It seems like the ministry of magic can't really know who do the magic, like when Dobbi (sp.) did the magic and Harry was blamed since he live there, I guess.
Hermione did herself magic in Diagon in the Second year, when Harry's glasses were broken, IIRC. So maybe they are allowed, only not near muggles???

Chapter 5 - I agree that Snape shouldn't get the Defend against dark arts. It should be in the 7th year. We also need some sort of story wth him, 'cause he needs to quit in the end (for #Snape to be the teahcer).

Chapter 6 - I don't like this idea for some reason. I thinik Sirius gave the house to Harry, Harry alone. But Remus could be the godfather instead of Sirius. Which sounds okay.
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Chap 3. Yeah, that's true. Okay, as long as they only do it at #12.

Chap 6. Okay... so only Harry gets the house, but Remus is his gaurdian? I was thinking maybe he gave it to Remus as well because you know how Remus is so poor. Either way works.

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Chap 3. Yeah, that's true. Okay, as long as they only do it at #12.

Chap 6. Okay... so only Harry gets the house, but Remus is his gaurdian? I was thinking maybe he gave it to Remus as well because you know how Remus is so poor. Either way works.

What about the rest?

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With the rest I agree, that's why I didn't respond to them. don't know about Lizra though... or Fimbrethil.
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Prediction Game book update:

Chap. 1: At the Dursely's, Harry whines some about being stuck there. We find out what it is Dudley saw during his previous Dementor attack. Harry's dreams of Lord Moldy Shorts are renewed and he is pissed.

Chap. 2: Harry ponders on what Dudley saw and wonders why his life sucks. (JKR said that this book would be the shortest summer at the Dursely's.) Lupin comes to Privet Drive and takes Harry to the Order of the Phoenix headquarters. We find out that Krecher has left Grimald Place to work for Narcissa Malfoy, since he technically belongs to her. But Kreacher is strictly forbidden to divulge any secrets about the OotP.

Chap. 3: Harry is filled in, and fills in his friends, and maybe they try out some advanced magic they've each learned over the summer. Harry gives the shattered two-way mirror from Sirius to a very curious Hermione. We find out that Harry is the new Gryffindor quidditch captin. Harry's OWLS scores are as follows:

Charms- O
Transfiguration- EE
Herbology- EE
Defense Against the Dark Arts- O+
Potions- scraps an O
Care of Magical Creatures- EE
Divination- P
Astonomy- P
History oMagic - P

(Remember, it's Outstanding (O), Exceeds Expectations (EE), Acceptable (A), Poor (P), Dreadful (D) and Troll (T).)

Some of Harry's classes this year are:

Defense against the Dark Arts
Transfigurations
Charms
Potions


Chap. 4: Harry learns that his parents were both Aurors. Dumbledore comes and apolgizes again for not telling Harry of the prophecy, and he and Harry are buddy buddy once more. We hear that Voldemort has been busy attracting followers and attacking muggle born families. We see Neville and learn that he and his grandmother have been staying at the Order Headquarters, becuase they are in danger from the Deatheaters. Thus, Harry gets a new friend (they were friends before but now they're closer becasue they're in the same boat.)

Chap. 5: They go get their books They visit Fred and George's shop. We also learn that their shop has been quite successful, and the twins are definitely not returning to Hogwarts. Enter the new and even more evil Malfoy, with new and more evil/angry mother. They do/say somthing VERY nasty and/or threatning, and rather ominous too! They find out the new DADA teacher is going to be _____________,_________,________.


Chap. 6: Sirius's will is read. Sirius made sure to update it and included Harry as his heir. It was very important to him. As a result, Harry inherits Grimmauld place. Harry is thrilled to have his godfather's home. Sirius also took care to have Remus appointed Harry's guardian..

Chap.7: Professor Snape starts the dueling club up again, and always seems to set up Harry, Ron and Hermione in dangerous, stressful duels. Things are getting quite touchy and personal between Slytherin and Gryffindor, and Prof Snape seems to thrive on it. (You who are creating the DADA instructor could mention here, how Snape gets along with this person...if it is of any consequence.)

Chapt. 8: Harry's dreams are being invaded by Voldemort, and Harry actually has a spell during the Halloween party where he starts spouting parsel tongue, terrifying everyone, and himself! The new DADA professor is instructed to continue Harry's very important occlumency lessons.

Chap. 9: Ginny Weasley has matured greatly over the summer, and Harry notices and developes a crush. Now it's his turn to act awkwardly around her! Ginny is preoccupied with her upcoming OWLS and doesn't appear to notice Harrys new attitude towards her, till an incident in class where........?

Chap. 10: Several muggle-born Hogwarts students ( to date, a Hufflepuff, a Ravenclaw, and a Slytherin) vanish mysteriously and the staff suspects port keys have been planted on the school grounds by Voldemort supporters. Where the muggleborn students are being transported to is unknown. This "problem" is kept hush hush, but Hagrid accidently "spills the beans" when he overhears Ron freaking out because he thinks Hermione will be next.

Hagrid also has his hands full trying to keep the creatures in the forest safe, and his giant half brother is suspected as a trouble maker.


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Old 08-07-2004, 07:38 PM   #116
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#3: There is still the problem of underage magic, though. Was Diagon Alley a mistake, maybe? I think we should just forget them practicing magic outside of Hogwarts. There'll be enough practicing if they continue the Dueling Club.

#5: I like the idea of an exotic DADA teacher (although I still like Snape doing it, but it seems unlikely since we don't know why Dumbledore didn't let him have it before). Maybe he could be foreign (if Indian -- Professor Chaudry, which is a common Indian name, or maybe he could be from Africa) and have all sorts of unusual ways of doing things, that conflict with the Hogwarts routines and traditions thus making the other teachers annoyed, but the students like him and start imitating him and this causes all kinds of wacky fun. Then he gets killed by Death Eaters or something whilst trying to defend Hermione from being taken by them (assuming that's whose making the Muggle-borns disappear --although I think that whole thing is too close to what happened in CoS where they were being petrified. Maybe they could be getting vanishing sickness! ).

#6: I don't know that thrilled would describe Harry's reaction to inheriting G. Place -- remember what it was like with all the screaming pictures and stuff? That could provide some interesting material, though. Also, I think he'll still have to return to the Dursleys, because of the protection, and remember our book 7 thing about Petunia -- we still have to "go" there. I like the idea of Lupin as his guardian, and I like the idea that he could live at G. Place, and Harry could go there over the other holidays like in book 5.
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Chap. 3- I thought that we should drop the magic also, but they have a point. I'm still voting for dropping it, though.

Chap. 5- Professor Chaudry sounds good, then. I like the idea about the wacky fun, too! But I think that maybe he should be really strict in lessons, but he kind of involves himself in their lives outside of lessons? Because, really, in the situation they're in, it would be good if someone's strict in that class, or they'd never learn as much, or get the lesson as well, as if he was strict. Some of my teachers were like that- they were strict while teaching, but everyone liked them anyway because all the rest of the time they were really friendly and stuff.

Chap. 6- We are sending Harry to the Dursleys. In the first few chapters. But JKR said that would be his shortest summer there, so we made him go pretty quickly.

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I can't remember what vanishing sickness is? Tell me please!

I just had them practising a little advanced magic as a way to show off and have some fun. Perhaps set up a certain "skill" that will come into important play later....maybe one of them is trying to perform a certain spell/charm yet messes it up, then later, at a crucial moment, they need to do this exact spell and do it right....can they do it...just a fun plot ploy. No biggie. It could even be that one of them has discovered a way to do magic off grounds without being detected!

We can drop the "thrilled" line, or change it to "mixed emotions".
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Okay, then.

Vanishing sickness is just something that was mentioned in OOtP in passing, but it sounded really interesting (I think it was at St. Mungo's, and I guess it involves an illness that makes people disappear -- to where, I don't know. Wacky fun! )
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Well.....vanishing sickness sounds rather random, and wouldn't really tie into an *evil plan of Voldemort's*.
I was thinking along the lines of the various muggle born students from each house disappearing as a sort of Deatheater lure/trap, (and a way to raise the hysteria level at Hogwarts) ......the DE's trying to lure a key player of OoTP to come looking for the students....but probably getting a brash (and hopefully lucky ) student instead....with critical consequences resulting from actions or information learned during the "rescue" mission, that affects the outcome of the "final battle" in this book.
However, Vanishing Sickness would be a good way for the Hogwarts staff to try and explain away the disappearances!
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