Time Zones and Places!

[sun-star]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
I guess the equivalent would be freeway on-ramps, but they don't go in complete circles, as (I think, IIRC) the British ones do ... you either merge or go off the side of the road Sometimes for big freeway interchanges, you'll have three, and they're called "cloverleafs".

"Cloverleafs" - what a pretty name! Brightens up a dull road feature.

Thanks Rian

[Rían]

you're welcome - and they actually do look a bit like a giant concrete cloverleaf! We should paint them green!

[brownjenkins]

we call them rotaries (or maybe rotarys... i don't spell them that often) in massachusetts... the same as they are in england, where multiple roads come together... though we stick to the other side of the road, of course

i believe they are fairly rare in the US outside of mass., as many of my friends get very confused by them when they drive here... which can be somewhat dangerous

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
I guess the equivalent would be freeway on-ramps, but they don't go in complete circles, as (I think, IIRC) the British ones do ... you either merge or go off the side of the road Sometimes for big freeway interchanges, you'll have three, and they're called "cloverleafs".

if you mean where smaller road goes down and merges with
larger road, we have them on uk motorways

[mithrand1r]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
we call them rotaries (or maybe rotarys... i don't spell them that often) in massachusetts... the same as they are in england, where multiple roads come together... though we stick to the other side of the road, of course

i believe they are fairly rare in the US outside of mass., as many of my friends get very confused by them when they drive here... which can be somewhat dangerous

There were many in New Jersey and there still are some in the state. They have been phased out over the years due to too many idiots driving at the same time.

I think Rotaries (or Circles as they are refered to in NJ) are good, since you avoid having a traffic light. This is especially good late at night. It is annoying to be at a red light waiting for air. The problems with circles are:

1. that people entering a circle do not yield to people currently in the circle.
2. the circle is not upgraded to accommodate higher traffic volumes when appropriate.
3. some people are (to put it politely ) not coordinated enough to navigate a circle.

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

on british roundabouts, you give way to those coming from he right, although in usa it would be left, and there are usually at least 2 lanes, so can always get in easily,
some of these roundabouts have traffic lights

this system works well enough for us, dont know why it wouldnt for americans

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by sun-star
That makes sense

Since I'm on a roll: someone asked a question in another thread about whether Americans use the word "roundabout". As in those things in the road, not at a fairground Is there a different word or do you not really have them in the US?

We say circle. New Jersey has many circles - although a lot of them are being dimantled and stop lights or jug handles are going in.

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

jug handles????????

what do you mean by that?

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by sun-star
"Cloverleafs" - what a pretty name! Brightens up a dull road feature.

Thanks Rian

Cloverleafs are different than circles aka roundabouts (in brit speak).

Here is a New Jersey circle - Cardiff Circle

New Jersey is one of the most populated states in the nation and also boasts the most paved roads of highway per area than any other state. In fact, there are over 33,000 linear miles of local, county and state roads. Therefore, it is no wonder that New Jersey holds its place in contributions to the national transportation scene.

In 1925, a very innovative concept was introduced - the country's first traffic circle, built in Pennsauken. The principal of the traffic circle (or "rotary") is that it allows for greater volumes of traffic to pass through an intersection of two or more highways without having to stop. Following the success of the first traffic circle in Pennsauken, (or the "Airport Circle" as it would later be called) the construction of other circles sprang up around the country.

A total of 67 traffic circles were eventually built throughout New Jersey, with most of the construction taking place in the 1920's and 1930's. However, with increases in vehicle speeds and traffic volumes, the efficiency and safety of traffic circles declined to the point where the state transportation department decided to start eliminating them. One recent such circle falling victim is the Cardiff Circle in Egg Harbor Township in Atlantic County located just outside of Atlantic City.

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Last Child of Ungoliant
jug handles????????

what do you mean by that?

Instead of being able to make left hand turns and back up traffic - you make a right - swing around and then have to cross the street you were just on. It looks like a jug handle - hence it's name. it prevents traffic congestion.

It looks sort of like this -

[Grey_Wolf]

There was this tv program called "Bästa formen" (The Best Design) in which they asked people to call in or send a postcard with their choices of prettiest and ugliest roundabout (Rondell in Swedish). They also said that they think that "roundaboutitis" is spreading in Sweden because every other town or community build one or more roundabout.

[Janny]

So my English teacher was right about the roundabout / rotary thing?! This is most distressing!

[Janny]

Oh. What are the connotations of the phrase 'waiting on...'? I mean is it a direct translation of 'waiting for...' or does it imply more than just waiting?
If you were to do a song, say 'Waiting on a Sunny Day', would it be weird to change it from upbeat to broody?

[Lalaith_Elf]

Okay a question - In England the clocks went forward today. So it's 9:25 here, but why does it still say 8:25 on the Entmoot clock thing??? Or am I being stupid and have to actually change it to GMT-1 or something? Am am no good with time zones - or computers!!!

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

i didnt notice that, till now

i had to change all my clocks, and lose an hour in my precious bed!!
all this GMT/BST Frigs with my head

[Lalaith_Elf]

I know - I can't believe I lost an hour in bed!!! It means I'll be catching up with sleep again at school! I still keep on thinking it's only half eight!!! Plus it messes up with my medication.

[Radagast The Brown]

We, in Israel, switch the time on April 5th-6th. So... right now I'm one hour from England, and on the same time as in Europe... I think..

[Jonathan]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
We, in Israel, switch the time on April 5th-6th. So... right now I'm one hour from England, and on the same time as in Europe... I think..

Cool, we're on the same time for about week then.

Does anyone know when the Entmoot clock will update itself?

[Fat middle]

Originally posted by Jonathan
Cool, we're on the same time for about week then.

Does anyone know when the Entmoot clock will update itself?

I think that the time at Entmoot is what you have set in your user options, so it should have changed today.

[Ruinel]

I'm GMT -6
I'm on whenever.