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And btw, I wouldn't swab (and I'm not saying you are, Rex) one side for voting "against someone because of his race, because he very well may be getting votes because of it. I don't know what to say about the Michael Steele thing except this: Tennessee has been accused of having racist voters just because the majority supports Corker and because of old stereotypes about the south (which there are still some basis for, in some cases). Meanwhile nobody is accusing the same for the people in Maryland who are NOT voting for Steele. Quote:
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Who else voted today?
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11-07-2006, 11:13 PM | #104 |
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Dang it! ...Santorum and DeWine out...
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Edit: now its webb by a hundreth of a percent, Its a good thing you don't bite your nails hector.
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11-08-2006, 12:54 PM | #106 |
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In the immortal words of Howard Dean-
YEEAAARRRRGGGHH!!!! Gain of the House, four (maybe five) seats in Senate, plus gains in governorships and State legislatures. It's been pointed out that in the last twenty years, the average House swing has been five seats- the exception being 1994, which gave the Republicans control for the last twelve years- so a 25-30 seat shift is a pretty sweeping repudiation of Bush/Cheney. The Allen campaign in Virginia is already under investigation by the FBI for voter suppression (Democrat supporters being called, told they're ineligible to vote and being threatened with jail if they do try and vote; others being told-falsely- that their precincts have been changed.) Normally, these things are swept under the rug- if you win, you're too busy going forward; if you lose, your opponents shout crybaby. In the Virginia case, a recount will give lots of time and interest to these investigations, and may highlight those in other places- harrassing robocalls, Latinos being threatened etc.
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OTOH, to Republicans feeling a little low, remember the wisdom of Duane Thomas, on asked about the awesome significance of playing in the SuperBowl:
"So, if this is the Ultimate Game, how come they're playing it again next year?"
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Oh yeah the after election coverage is going to go on for a long time Montana and Virginia won't be decided for a couple months probably.
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BTW Nurv, I guess this is good news? http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/...550.shtml?s=ic
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As far as speeches go, I'm going to have to hand it to Lieberman. That man just says almost everything the right way. Ned Lamont, I'm sorry, I have to laugh...everytime I heard him on he was using that old "change" thing. I hate that stuff.
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I think it's just basically following the pattern that has always been the case in our country, a continual swing back and forth between parties. Which is a good thing. Anytime either side has been in complete control for too long, things go from bad to worse.
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Holy Cow, Rumsfeld is resigning!...just saw a pic of him, and he looks quite happy about it...
I wonder if they'll bring Colin Powell back? Different stuff, if they did...it could be the stuff that works. Rex, I'll get back to you tonight when I have more time... EDIT: Not Powell. Robert Gates, former CIA head...
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The best thing about this? Bush has now officially been castrated politically and legislatively. He can veto and piss and moan but he wont have any agenda clout from now on in his presidency. In other words he is much more limited on any further damage he can do. Note to democrats: As a recognized "liberal" here I think I am in a position to issue a warning to all those of like mind and/or who call themselves a democrat. DONT GLOAT. Thats right. Shut the hell up. You had 20 minutes or so to celebrate but now its time to get to work and be sober about it. There was enough gloating and preening here two years ago after the great "moral revolution" in 2004. Dont lower yourself to such pathetic ego pumping and chest thumping as the republicans did then. This wasnt any kind of revolution at all. It was a signal to Bush that the public doesn’t like his policies and how he handles things. But in the end these are all still just politicians after all and the problems in the world are still extremely tough to deal with. Lets hope Pelosi and gang are sincere when they say they really want to work with all parties to get things done and dont follow the Hastert-Delay strong-arm/my-way-or-the-highway form of governing which put us into this mess to begin with. The temptation will be to do that for revenge. They will really need to resist that or they will doom themselves for 08...
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And please don't spend as much money as those Republicans did.
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...And don't hope that the Dems are going to be much moderate in it... I'm not sure I can take much more of this "bipartisanship" talk. It just never happens. The big news for me is the resignation of Rumsfeld. That to me is a bigger deal than anything else... I liked Rumsfeld, but I can see why it's time for a switchover to something new. Not to mention, if Rumsfeld had stayed on, the dems would leap at his throat...more trouble than it'd be worth. He definitely looked happy about resigning...
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Here comes the Democrat "new course" in Iraq, no course at all, but pulling the levers for Iran's takeover....
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/...021.shtml?s=ic Let's all hold our breath...there's some serious stuff they're playing with now, if they listen to McGovern.
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