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Spock · 04-13-2006, 03:14 PM

OH, I see where you're coming from RTB. You don't have to kill someone at the site, the object could have been "borrowed" and placed back. Interesting.

strider8 · 04-14-2006, 02:32 PM

Could a dementor suck a piece of the soul from a horcrux?

Spock · 04-14-2006, 02:55 PM

good question.....IMO, no. They suck the soul from living things and nothing in six books says otherwise.

Radagast The Brown · 04-14-2006, 08:27 PM

I agree. It seems highly unlikely it would happen. I wonder if the soul can be taken out of the horcrux without destroying it, and it seems it can't be. Do you think Voldemort could take the parts of his soul back to his body?

Spock · 04-14-2006, 08:47 PM

Yes I think so. Remember it is his decision that splits the soul and he puts it into these items therefore, IMO, he would be able to bring them back into the whole. After all, the idea is that if he is 'killed' he can still live by retrieving that part of his soul that wasn't killed; i.e. the part in a horcrux.

strider8 · 04-17-2006, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Spock

good question.....IMO, no. They suck the soul from living things and nothing in six books says otherwise.

Could a dementor choose whether to suck Nagini's soul out or Voldermort's soul out of Nagini's body.

tolkienfan · 04-17-2006, 05:33 PM

Wow, I never thought about a dementor sucking a soul out of a horcrux. Interesting thought...

durinsbane2244 · 04-17-2006, 11:45 PM

i don't know...they feed on happiness, and then end up taking the soul...happiness is a warm gun, so a warm medallion? [beatles, that] also, suck from where? no mouth...

tolkienfan · 04-18-2006, 06:07 PM

Snakes have mouths.

durinsbane2244 · 04-18-2006, 08:39 PM

and what of the others?

rohirrim TR · 04-19-2006, 02:45 PM

well lockets arent very big so maybe they could swallow it whole and the er..stomach acid would break down the locket and then they'd have the fillet of sole (soul)

durinsbane2244 · 04-19-2006, 07:38 PM

right...well...a bit on the far-stretch side, eh?

tomstheman · 04-22-2006, 10:16 PM

This maybe be a stupid question, but if RAB did steal the locket, why didn't Voldemorte try and get it back when he killed him or at least check on the fake horcrux, and maybe when there was a real horcrux there Voldemorte didn't have the poison in the basin. Maybe he only put the poison there when he couldn't get the real horcrux back that way the victim would be there and Voldemorte could torture the person to find out how they found out about the horcruxes any way. Also I thik it would ahve been possible for one person to do it. i mean Dumbledore did cast fire after drinking the water which scared off the inferie(sp) i mean suer it would ahve been tough but I'm sure dombledore would have been able to do it if he had been younger, becuase it is repeatedly stated that dumbledore wasn't the wizard he used to be becuase of old age, even he admits it right before he dies. Sorry for rambling just my own personal musings.

Another thing I just realized, if Dumbledore wasn't dead why did he have a picture in his office. Not that I'm happy he's dead, but at least now harry can stop hiding behind him and relying on Dumbledore to get him out of situations.

Radagast The Brown · 04-23-2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tomstheman

This maybe be a stupid question, but if RAB did steal the locket, why didn't Voldemorte try and get it back when he killed him

Because he didn't know the horcrux was stolen?

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or at least check on the fake horcrux, and maybe when there was a real horcrux there Voldemorte didn't have the poison in the basin. Maybe he only put the poison there when he couldn't get the real horcrux back that way the victim would be there and Voldemorte could torture the person to find out how they found out about the horcruxes any way.

What? Sorry, I'm sort of confused...

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Also I thik it would ahve been possible for one person to do it. i mean Dumbledore did cast fire after drinking the water which scared off the inferie(sp) i mean suer it would ahve been tough but I'm sure dombledore would have been able to do it if he had been younger, becuase it is repeatedly stated that dumbledore wasn't the wizard he used to be becuase of old age, even he admits it right before he dies. Sorry for rambling just my own personal musings.

First of all.. Dumbledore was still one of the best wizards even in his old age.. not many wizards are in his level.

Anyway, Dumbledore couldn't drink the potion alone after... not many glasses or it. Hard to believe Dumbledore could do it alone when he was younger, because I just can't see how he could make himself keep drinking.

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Another thing I just realized, if Dumbledore wasn't dead why did he have a picture in his office. Not that I'm happy he's dead, but at least now harry can stop hiding behind him and relying on Dumbledore to get him out of situations.

I don't think the picture in the office proves anything, unless it gets there automatically when a Headmaster dies.

tomstheman · 04-24-2006, 11:16 AM

Sorry those were my musings. Just wanted some other opinions on my thoughts thanks

Radagast The Brown · 04-24-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tomstheman

Sorry those were my musings. Just wanted some other opinions on my thoughts thanks

It's ok... just saying my thoughts on your speculations. I disagree with most.. but maybe you'll be right in the end.

tomstheman · 04-24-2006, 05:32 PM

i don't know i guess we'll all just have to wait and see, I mean there are alot of theories out there and it'll be interesting to see what JK has up her sleeve since you know she can basically do what ever she wants since she is creating a whole new world. like i said before she could turn RAB into someone we've never heard of before i mean look what she did with Slughorne i mean he was never mentioned in the earlier books and she completely developed a fairly influential character in only one book. i can't wait for the seventh and it better be huge or i'm gonna be pissed.

Radagast The Brown · 04-24-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tomstheman

i don't know i guess we'll all just have to wait and see, I mean there are alot of theories out there and it'll be interesting to see what JK has up her sleeve since you know she can basically do what ever she wants since she is creating a whole new world. like i said before she could turn RAB into someone we've never heard of before i mean look what she did with Slughorne i mean he was never mentioned in the earlier books and she completely developed a fairly influential character in only one book. i can't wait for the seventh and it better be huge or i'm gonna be pissed.

You're gonna be pissed.

It seems like she makes up at least one whole new character in every book she wrote, usually a new teacher (it used to be the Defence against Dark Arts, last book potions). She'll surely introduce a new character... and a lot more information... it's probably unpredictable because of that.

E, LoR · 05-18-2006, 12:33 PM

I can't wait!!! I'm so excited. do we know the US release date yet?

(ruleeeee..

)

jammi567 · 05-20-2006, 06:09 AM

about the locket at grimmald place. if the locket was gold, then don't you think that jkr would've mentioned it then, because, after all, if all the other pieces there were silver, then a gold locket would stand out to anyone.

04-13-2006, 03:14 PM	#101
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	OH, I see where you're coming from RTB. You don't have to kill someone at the site, the object could have been "borrowed" and placed back. Interesting. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

04-14-2006, 02:32 PM	#102
strider8 Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a spaceship, floating in your puny planet's atmosphere, awaiting orders to invade Posts: 292	Could a dementor suck a piece of the soul from a horcrux? __________________ The axes hewed Forlong as he fought alone and unhorsed; and both Duilin of Morthond and his brother were trampled to death when they assailed the mumakil,leading their bowmen close to shoot at the eyes of the monsters. Neither Hirluin the fair would return to Pinnath Gelin, nor Grimbold to Grimslade, nor Halbarad to the northlands,dour-handed Ranger. Those that would not return home, page830-831, The Battle of the Pelennor Fields, The Return of the King

04-14-2006, 02:55 PM	#103
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	good question.....IMO, no. They suck the soul from living things and nothing in six books says otherwise. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

04-14-2006, 08:27 PM	#104
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I agree. It seems highly unlikely it would happen. I wonder if the soul can be taken out of the horcrux without destroying it, and it seems it can't be. Do you think Voldemort could take the parts of his soul back to his body? __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

04-14-2006, 08:47 PM	#105
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Yes I think so. Remember it is his decision that splits the soul and he puts it into these items therefore, IMO, he would be able to bring them back into the whole. After all, the idea is that if he is 'killed' he can still live by retrieving that part of his soul that wasn't killed; i.e. the part in a horcrux. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

04-17-2006, 05:33 PM	#107
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	Wow, I never thought about a dementor sucking a soul out of a horcrux. Interesting thought... __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

04-17-2006, 11:45 PM	#108
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	i don't know...they feed on happiness, and then end up taking the soul...happiness is a warm gun, so a warm medallion? [beatles, that] also, suck from where? no mouth... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

04-18-2006, 06:07 PM	#109
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04-18-2006, 08:39 PM	#110
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	and what of the others? __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

04-19-2006, 07:38 PM	#112
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	right...well...a bit on the far-stretch side, eh? __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

04-22-2006, 10:16 PM	#113
tomstheman Enting Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Some where between the ground and the sky Posts: 63	This maybe be a stupid question, but if RAB did steal the locket, why didn't Voldemorte try and get it back when he killed him or at least check on the fake horcrux, and maybe when there was a real horcrux there Voldemorte didn't have the poison in the basin. Maybe he only put the poison there when he couldn't get the real horcrux back that way the victim would be there and Voldemorte could torture the person to find out how they found out about the horcruxes any way. Also I thik it would ahve been possible for one person to do it. i mean Dumbledore did cast fire after drinking the water which scared off the inferie(sp) i mean suer it would ahve been tough but I'm sure dombledore would have been able to do it if he had been younger, becuase it is repeatedly stated that dumbledore wasn't the wizard he used to be becuase of old age, even he admits it right before he dies. Sorry for rambling just my own personal musings. Another thing I just realized, if Dumbledore wasn't dead why did he have a picture in his office. Not that I'm happy he's dead, but at least now harry can stop hiding behind him and relying on Dumbledore to get him out of situations. __________________ Why is the word phonetically spelled with a ph? Who's cruel idea was it to put a s in the word Lisp? Why is the word abbreviated such a long word? Why is the latin word for fear of long words Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia? Yes it is i checked online. Remember Remember the fifth of November Last edited by tomstheman : 04-22-2006 at 10:29 PM.

04-24-2006, 11:16 AM	#115
tomstheman Enting Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Some where between the ground and the sky Posts: 63	Sorry those were my musings. Just wanted some other opinions on my thoughts thanks __________________ Why is the word phonetically spelled with a ph? Who's cruel idea was it to put a s in the word Lisp? Why is the word abbreviated such a long word? Why is the latin word for fear of long words Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia? Yes it is i checked online. Remember Remember the fifth of November

04-24-2006, 05:32 PM	#117
tomstheman Enting Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Some where between the ground and the sky Posts: 63	i don't know i guess we'll all just have to wait and see, I mean there are alot of theories out there and it'll be interesting to see what JK has up her sleeve since you know she can basically do what ever she wants since she is creating a whole new world. like i said before she could turn RAB into someone we've never heard of before i mean look what she did with Slughorne i mean he was never mentioned in the earlier books and she completely developed a fairly influential character in only one book. i can't wait for the seventh and it better be huge or i'm gonna be pissed. __________________ Why is the word phonetically spelled with a ph? Who's cruel idea was it to put a s in the word Lisp? Why is the word abbreviated such a long word? Why is the latin word for fear of long words Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia? Yes it is i checked online. Remember Remember the fifth of November

05-18-2006, 12:33 PM	#119
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05-20-2006, 06:09 AM	#120
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	about the locket at grimmald place. if the locket was gold, then don't you think that jkr would've mentioned it then, because, after all, if all the other pieces there were silver, then a gold locket would stand out to anyone. Last edited by jammi567 : 05-21-2006 at 12:23 PM.