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Unfortunately, I can't seem to work Sauron into this scenario. But give me some time. [Sorry, Ruinel, but I had to edit another of your posts. Please try to keep it at a true PG-13 level. Thanks. -- azalea] |
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05-12-2003, 08:44 PM | #102 |
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With every serious rumor that's come out on these films, the reaction is to immediately freak out and act like the world is coming to an end. It happened with Arwen, it happened with Boromir and the ring, it happened with Eowyn, and now it's happening with Sauron.
It's been expressed here by Ruinel that Sauron would never appear on the battlefield himself. Oh really? Gee, how was it that Isildur came by the ring in the first place? I can hear the response now, "b-b-but Sauron woulda learned his lesson from THAT war and would never, ever, ever show up on a battlefield again." Seems to me that without a ring to cut off his finger, he would feel pretty indestructable. Also, if the ring WAS going to be on the battlefield, seems to me that Sauron would be no different than Gollum, he'd want to be there to claim it himself after its wearer was killed. Did Sauron appear on the battlefield in the book? no. But there is no denying that it makes perfect sense for the film. |
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05-12-2003, 09:12 PM | #104 |
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*boo... non-sequitur*
I deny that it makes perfect sense. Hey it is possible. Now, where were we... I think Gimli could be a cross-dresser, but since he is a dwarf it is impossible to tell. Faramir should be Gandalf's love child. So much more drama there. It's all about the drama after all. Drama, drama, drama. Of course Saruman's connection to the Shire should be as a drug cartel. Tobacco is so passe and drugs would really make it more accessable to the modern audience. This gives the possibility of extensive car(t) cases and subsequent crashes and shootouts. Searching for a new title. Bored of the Rings:The Movie is too long.
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But he just can't take physical form to show up for the company at the Gates. Impossible! It's as simple as that. PJ would be contradicting himself again.
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I'm trying to show that the battle that ended the second age was under different circumstances. Sauron had the One Ring already, and thus far more power than he has without it. The siege had been going on for already seven long years. It isn't until the battle was so 'stressed' that Sauron finally comes forth and faces Gil-galad and Elendil. In the battle that ends the third age, Sauron does not have the One Ring. He does not have his full strength and power. It makes no sense for him to come out onto the battlefield and face Aragorn and the legions that have come to war with his hordes. This is why it was cleverly written this way in the first place. The discerning viewer watching this movie is going to wonder certain things about that scenario. Why is Sauron facing his enemy when he doesn't have his full strength? Has Sauron suddenly become valiant and courageous? Here he is, standing bravely before his enemy... wow, we were wrong about the bad guy. Maybe he's not as smart as we thought, or maybe he's not as bad as we thought. He's going to fight and die with his loyal servants after all. Oh, and BB... quit being a [edited] when you write your posts. I'm beginning to wonder about your sexual preferrence. Last edited by Ruinel : 05-12-2003 at 09:37 PM. |
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hmmm... lets make him a pimp for Arwen and Eowen... err... who became hookers because they became addicted to the 'weed' in the Southfarthing. Sauron is the leader of the drug cartel, Saruman is his right hand man, Grima is the cartel connection who ferries the 'weed' between the Shire and the many distributorships. Aragorn, who was once the fiance to Arwen (prewhore/predrug adicted), works for the local drug enforcement agency in Gondor, assigned to Bree, undercover. bla, bla, bla.... ... skip to final scene... where Aragorn [The rest of this post was complete spam and was inappropriately violent. You need to stick to the topic. A couple of humorous off-topic posts is fine, but this is going too far. -- azalea] |
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Dont' forget romance. The wedding much be extra dramatic. Aragorn runs from the altar telling Arwen she should go to Valinor and take "her little hobbit friend" with her. They elope in the end and give the kingdom to Faramir, who is actually an alien robot (for the sequel).
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That said, if Sauron do come forth in the film, I don't think I'll have serious objections. In a way it would make perfect sense if we actually see him being destroyed on the battlefield, to echo the way he was conquered in the battle with the Last Alliance. Let's wait for the movie and see how it works out.
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We can work in Fargo's chipper shredder (I'm pretty sure it's still available from props). But I'm torn between having Grima put into it or Saruman. Give me your thoughts on this and I'll come up with a new scenario that includes the chipper shredder. Besides, I like the idea of someone (I really don't care who) having [edited]. Let's try to keep that scene. More mass appeal to our target audience. Artanis: no, no, no... we see the light now (thank you BB)... we're going to rework the movie so that it has more mass appeal to a target audience, and give it more of PJ's style. To hell with the books. Who would want to see a movie that tells some old codger's story anyway. Certainly, no one actually reads those silly, old books. hahahaha. We'll use the name of the book, certainly. That will give our movie a credibility as a classic brought to the screen. But there's a whole lot in this book that.... errr... just doesn't have the same mass appeal. Our goal isn't to bring an actual classic to the big screen. Oh no... please... the goal here is to make: MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. Jump on the bandwagon with us Artanis. |
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[monotone voice]come... join us... see the light for which BB has shown us... join us.... be a part of the PJ collective... resistance is futile...[/monotone voice] *3 long metal prongs pop out of the top of right hand* [monotone voice]....you will be assimilated... resistance is futile...[/monotone voice] *Ruinel lunges prongs toward Sheeana's neck* |
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I'm unable to feel bad about rumours of a single scene in a film that hasn't been released yet. Even if those rumours should be true, I want to see the whole movie and then judge.
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I FOUND IT! I FOUND THE CHIPPER SHREDDER!!
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