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If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do." |
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If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do." |
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04-19-2006, 02:20 AM | #104 |
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und für unsere Mitglieder auf dem Hitler Gewinde Der Führer Geburtstag ist April 20
Since this morbid facination has encroached upon The MOOT, Perhaps another book to get is:
GUIDELINES FOR ADOLF HITLER'S BIRTHDAY. Translated from the SS original published by the Reichsführer-SS in 1943. Instructs how to properly celebrate the Führer's birthday on April 20. Happy Birthday! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do." |
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I also think there were differences due to region and situation. Some of Europe was under control of Hitler, others were free, still others were neutral. I doubt the news-distribution went equally in the European lands.
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04-19-2006, 07:12 AM | #107 | |
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04-19-2006, 07:15 AM | #108 | |
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Well, we can get pretty obsessed with "proving" that reality is fluid...
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"Proving" assumes that the answer can be known, and it can not and we accept that. That is the difference, not our obsessions.
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Ah, ok. Thought it was the obsession you were referring to.
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Btw, wasn't Hitler classed eventually as being one of the three supposed anti-Christs that are to appear before the end?
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Title: : STUDY OF ANTICHRIST AND HIS KINGDOM BY STUDYING ADOLF HITLER AND HIS KINGDOM -- PART 3 -- HITLER CHANGED THE TIMES AND SEASONS! Subtitle: Just like Antichrist is prophesied to act, Hitler changed the German calendar and days of festivals. He replaced the "Christian" festivals and events, plus the Christian based calendar, with pagan holidays. Just as Antichrist will do! -------and then check out this url: http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1244.cfm Some very interesting viewpoints.
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04-19-2006, 11:33 AM | #114 |
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I am a Muslim!
Does the fact that I said this make me one?
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Earniel, that is a very good point you raise re: the variance in geography, etc with regards to the people in Europe knowing about the extent of Hitler's/Germany's actions towards the jews. From my oma's point of view, she knew about the camps, and she knew about the enmasse persecution against jews (and no Lief, she is not a jew), so she had a fair idea what was happening to them during the war because of all the 'disappearances', but she certainly didn't realise the scale of 'the final solution'. Certainly, it could be argued that people in other areas of Europe may not have been so clued up to Hitler's activities. Incidentally, it's one of the reasons that oma & opa migrated out to NZ - to get away from all the horrible memories and devastation of the war (my opa had been a POW in the Japanese camps, and even to this day, prior to his death, he hated the Japanese with a passion).
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I do know that many knew, for certain: The Germans from Einzetzgruppen (sp.?) and Vehrmacht that took part in the murders in the Soviet Union knew and told their families in Germany (sometimes sending photos too!), Polish who lived near the camps knew. From them the rumours spread, in 3 years. Also there were escapers from both the killings in the Soviet Union (for instance Babi Yar) or the camps like Sobibor. In Majdanek the Jews were brought to the Lublin train station and walked to the camp. The Jews in the Ghettos knew! They knew and therefore rebelled in 1942-1943. Quote:
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