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The juxtaposition of Paul and Leto II is interesting. It may be that Herbert viewed Paul as a messiah beyond the political maneuverings, but Leto II was infinitely a product of politics. It's interesting to ponder on whether Herbert meant for either to become actual messiahs, as opposed to figureheads.... *goes off to quietly ponder*
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04-28-2004, 07:34 AM | #102 | |
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Do 'you' think Farad'n was Feyd's grandson?
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04-28-2004, 04:41 PM | #103 |
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I just recently bought a copy of Dune, and am about halfway through it. So far, it is a very good read. One of the best reads I've had since Lord of the Rings.
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Dune Genesis cont...
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05-04-2004, 07:41 PM | #107 | |
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Ooh, note new sig. \/
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05-04-2004, 09:13 PM | #108 |
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How enlightening my dear goddess...
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05-05-2004, 09:56 PM | #109 |
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Why thank you my dear bouncing yellow shoe. Are you referring to my signature, or the wisdom of Herbert?
While I'm here... Foldspace is an excellent online resource for fellow Dune fanatics().
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05-05-2004, 11:19 PM | #110 |
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Both. In fact, I am wary of 2 of the 5 presidential candidates where I reside.
I'm voting for the one most people distrust a little but who is qualfied to manage the country.
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05-08-2004, 10:08 AM | #111 |
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Is tnh Cult of BoP in contradiction to Herbert's position on the cult of personality aka the Superman (Ubermench) or is it only the hero cults that are relevant?
Arathorn... it's been a while since our paths crossed. Hope all's well with you.
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05-09-2004, 11:34 PM | #112 |
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Great meeting you on entmoot again, Cirdan!
I'm not that familiar with the specifics of BoP's tnh cult but I hope to find the link someday if anyone can enlighten me.
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05-10-2004, 04:28 AM | #113 |
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'Tis easy: thou shalt like Dune, and thou shalt like Dr. Who. There's also a small clause dealing with a pants quota, and worshipping the ground I walk on as well.....
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05-10-2004, 04:49 AM | #114 |
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Oooohh....
In that case, there is no contradiction. I don't consider inanimate objects (such as the ground BoP walks on) as heroes. They are merely cutesy wootsey addictions I love...
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Hey, Arathorn, you could make one of your great songs for the cult's anthem in attrition for your sin. *frets about pants quota* Ahem... OT: I've started Children of Dune. It seems like it will be more unpredictable than Messiah (just that the martyrdom was inevitable). Unfortunately my Metro ride was not condusive to reading today so I'll have to get some bed time reading in. Robo-tigers, eh?
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05-11-2004, 11:35 AM | #116 |
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halfway through children... lot's of stuff going on in this one... it may be my favorite so far
great link too BoP
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No prob, Jenkins. If you like CoD, I'll be curious as to whether or not you'll like God Emperor... That one's a really weird read. **minor spoiler**
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Well, I'm up to God Emperor of Dune now and I was wondering...
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Thanks for using the spoiler text as I am starting God Emperor tomorrow. Children was my favorite by far, so far.
hehe... I've go a sandtrout in my pants. The ultimate protection.
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