05-15-2005, 12:16 AM | #101 |
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I dont know...I am amazed at the rate of his being made a saint so fast. Are they afraid that people will forget if they dont stick the St. in front of his name?
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06-14-2005, 03:24 PM | #103 |
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I say but aren't those Canadians getting uppity!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050608...s_050608065110 What do you think will be the new Pope's reaction?
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I hope I don't turn this thread into a 'controversial' thread!
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But it is the way of my people to use light words at such times and say less than they mean. We fear to say to much. It robs us of the right words when a jest is out of place. -Meriadoc Brandybuck Is there anything I can do that wouldn't inconvenience me?.-Adrian Monk Hogan: What's a definate factor that we can count on? Newkirk: We don't know what we're doing. Do you wanna split a pineapple? -Shawn Spencer Last edited by Meriadoc Brandybuck : 06-15-2005 at 02:22 AM. |
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06-15-2005, 08:37 AM | #105 |
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sexism is disgusting, good bye...
man i can't stand right-wing politics, a plague on both your houses |
06-15-2005, 09:00 AM | #106 | |
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I like Merry's reaction so much I think I'll just quote it again: "Doctrine is doctrine. Suck it up." Indeed.
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I can't stand left-wing politics, so we're even then . I can't believe that people expect the Church to follow the current 'fashions' in government and religion. We're not talking about some flash-in-the-pan group here. The Church has been around for a very long time--things in the church don't just change overnight to fit our instant-gratification wishes. I'm quite disgusted with people who think the Church is old fashioned, and because of that it should choose a pope who's going to bring about radical changes. What part of "The Catholic Church" are they missing? And once again, why should they even CARE? They're not Catholics, and apparently have no wish to be. You don't see me running around posting about how Anglicans should be running their show, or trying to tell Baptists how to preach. If a liberal president were elected, I wouldn't be running around and making an ass out of myself just because I didn't like the way he looks--I might disagree with his viewpoints, but it takes a truely retarded person to insult a leader for the way they look just because they didn't get their little cake cut the way they want it. As for the article... These women aren't Catholics any more. They might believe the same things that a Catholic does, but defying the Church on something like this is to basically excommunicate yourself from it. That and the fact that they can't become priests without going through some kind of official training. Idiots. Last edited by Tessar : 06-15-2005 at 03:02 PM. |
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This is particularly true on an issue such as women priests, which is purely an internal question; it has no effect at all on anyone who isn't a Catholic.
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06-15-2005, 03:41 PM | #109 |
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My, isn't it open rant night at Cath-soc. :P
I rather like the way the media expresses her ignorance. My favourite publication, the Guardian, suggested, for example, that the Cardinals should pick 'the first black Pope'. Not that actually having had the first black Pope already should stand in the way of progress... |
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http://www.christiantoday.com/news/m...urches/375.htm .... a pox on socialism is redundant, it having been proven to be worse than smallpox in its human rights history!
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http://relapsedcatholic.blogspot.com...-churches.html and, http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawac...3-861546f99428 and, http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jun/05061408.html But any opposition to their agenda and WATCH OUT- YOU CAN'T BELIEVE THAT (not we don't believe you really believe that, but you CAN'T believe that)!
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http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jun/05061307.html So, poxes are brought on themselves by socialists and other progressives! But they'd rather point to the alleged zit on your face while ignoring the ravaged visage which is themselves. Go figure. And God (if He existed) forbid (if it didn't interfere with human autonomy) there be moral absolutes and right and wrong (except what they feel is thus today, but check in again tomorrow, it'll change)!
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let's consider the 3 aspects, shall we? right wing: characterised by sexism, xenophobia, extreme nationalism, traditionalism and often mild forms of racism cetnrism: characterised by ideological pragmatism, but often some environmentalism and libertarianism left wing: characterised by egalitarianism, social unity, liberty Quote:
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How does defining your vision of right wing and left wing have to do with my saying I dislike left wing the way you dislike right wing? I know what left wing stands for. Yet you don't seem to. How is it possible that all right wingers are sexist with people like Condola Rice being promoted in government by a right wing leader? How is it possible that the Church is 'sexist' if it allows women to become nuns? Becoming a priest is a section of the Church that women cannot enter, similar to the way that a man can't become a nun. Last edited by Tessar : 06-15-2005 at 11:39 PM. |
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I'm not so sure, LCoU. The fact that Communists went authoritarian doesn't mean they went right wing. (That's the BBC's definition of 'right-wing', a synonym of 'bad'. )
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Authoritarianism is a characteristic of both the left and right wing; they just have different opinions on who should have the authority. Does the phrase "dictatorship of the proletariat" ring any bells?
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