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By the way - this is the definition of amused - which made it seem like you liked his antics...
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01-20-2004, 03:57 PM | #102 | |
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"The British people believe that....."; or "Americans feel strongly that....."; or "The whole world outside American is thinking......" It's clearly nonsense, but more than that, its abject arrogance to think that just because one holds a particular view, the rest of 'sensible' humanity must agree. Your point is well made. |
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01-20-2004, 04:28 PM | #104 | |
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They're going by scientific polls to get a feel of what people think. However - I have never heard anyone use the phrase "The whole world..." Of course not all the British people believe something - but if the majority do - then that phrase is used. What iridates me - is that people act like it is only the US that says this stuff. Do you know how many countries have no understanding of the US - but complain when we don't have a full understanding of them? It's a too way street and I am tired of America always being singled out. Much of Europe didn't like Bush's attitude toward them before the Iraq war, but gave Chriac a free pass when he told the Easrtern European countries who supported us to "shut up".
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But this thread is supposed to be about your Presidential elections - not about how badly misunderstood the US is. Here's your chance to educate us ignorant non-Americans - so get on with it - educate us, don't bitch about us. |
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As for the presidential elections - I thought I have been posting information on how our system works.
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i'm voting for anyone not named bush... i think he is the worst president we've had since hoover
i'd also love to see McCain in there again, my favorite prospect in recent years... on the democratic side i'll wait to see how the primaries hash out first on the whole international discussion going on here... i think we as americans would all be better served by listening to both the good and bad things the rest of the world has to say about us... it doesn't take that much character to only deal with those who agree with you, it takes a lot more to reconcile with those who do not
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Although it amazes me how many people are just all about getting in ANYONE but Bush. At all costs. Usually theres a decent amount of rancor and passion about the various candidates in a primary. this year it seems like a good number of democrats dont really care who wins they just want someone who can get bush out. thats gotta say something I figure... Quote:
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In case there are any people who haven't made up their mind yet, I came across this web site which asks you a bunch of questions then gives you a score matched against the candidates. I got Kucinich (who he?) at the top, 100% match; next Kerry 95%; Bush @ 7%
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Right now it's... Kerry Dean Clark/Edwards Lieberman
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I dont really know whats going on in this thread, but is there anyone out there who thinks Bush should get re-elected? I for one do, I think that he is doing a pretty good job, at least from my point of view.
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I took it - didn't restrict my answer to any particular party. I got the following...
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Clark I figured would have come out a bit higher. Not even sure how they were able to get his information in there to make a comparison on him. He goes back and forth on everything. No surprise whatsoever on Kucinich or Sharpton - can't stand either one. The Democrats don't seem to be able to stand them either - let alone the rest of the country - since they are dead last in the primaries.
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Do most people support Bush in your branch Beor?
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As far as the branch is concerened, I dont really know, everyone seems to in my unit, except a few naysayers who pretty much complain about everything anyway. I would venture to guess that the majority of the Army probably supports Bush, which is good, because I would hate to see what would happen to the country if one of these democratic candidates got control of it.
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Kerry 100%
Kucinich 98% Dean 93% Sharpton 93% Clark 92% Edwards 88% Lieberman 80% Bush 8% hmmm... Well I wonder what algorithms they use to determine this stuff. Seems kind of sketchy if they group Kerry and Kucinich within 2% of each other and yet 90% different from Bush. But anyway Im not a democrat so it doesn’t really matter. My focus is hopefully having an option that can actually get elected in a contest with Bush. Right now Kerry is doing well but Iowa and New Hampshire, although influential, don’t really have a lot of delegates so they aren’t massively vital. We’ll know more when super Tuesday comes around. Edwards should get a kick in the south and you should see more even numbers when they get to places like Missouri and Arizona. Its quite obvious the focus is on getting a candidate who can actually beat bush and not simply getting the most ideal candidate. This is why I think Dean has slipped recently because he was trendy with the younger more vocal more liberal crowd there for a while but now that its getting serious the more traditional democrats are really focused on a personality that seems the most electable. So far they seem to feel that Kerry is that man which makes sense I guess. Hes not a left wing wacko. He has military experience. He has political experience. Hes even tempered and appealing. So the democrats are going about this with real care this year. Ive never seen anything like this. Its all about not who SHOULD be president but who SHOULDN’T. and the one common theme you hear is ANYBODY but Bush. The average democrat considers him such a detriment to so many things they hold as important that its caused a consciousness shift as far as picking a candidate goes.
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