Top 3 movies - Page 6

Baby-K · 02-12-2003, 10:26 AM

Yeah I suppose it was OK, but the title is a bit misleading don't you think?

I thought some of the themes intervowen in the movie was a bit forced (like Jake's sudden realisation of his responsibilities / search for redemption). Besides - as with all sequels the "punch" wasn't really there was it? It's like they just decided to throw together a plot based on a winner because everyone wanted to know "What now" at the end of Warriors.

He never really answers the question posed in the title - does anyone really forgive Jake? And what about Beth, her pain was the most obvious, yet she isn't really treated as a warrior is she? Again the females are reduced to only being warriors at heart, while the men have all the fun.

Millane · 02-12-2003, 10:33 AM

yeah it has nothing on Once Were Warriors...
yeah i didnt think there was a need for a sequel but anyways... it had its good points (Jake going insane with a wrench) and poor Nig being killed... i thought it was good how it could be serious as all hell but mix a bit of humour back into it aswell (Once were warriors that is)
there was some ****up with the gang wasnt there... Toa was actually a real gang over in NZ and they had to change it?

Baby-K · 02-13-2003, 02:37 AM

Using the real gang as it were would have hit too close to home I think, people like watching movies based on reality or with a certain amount of real elements, but they do not want to face the fact that these things are actually real, it forces us to acknowledge the truth - that we aren't living in a perfect world. Already the violence etc scared some people away, imagine telling them that not only is the movie violent, it's real & it happens every day....

I enjoyed the rape scene in Warriors (OK not enjoy, that's the wrong word - read appreciated??), it was prolly the truest reflection of what rape really is - and also the woman's reaction after the event - very powerful & it seemed to bring home the idea that parking lot rape by strangers is not the prevalent form of assault, usually it is by family members / people that you know. Also in other movies they tend to move to some form of female "empowerment" after a rape case, whereas in Warriors they treated it the way society generally does - the victim is ashamed of what happened & wants to hide away from the world. Also the shower afterward as if trying to erase all memory of it (though it did catch up with her in the end didn't it?)

Millane · 02-13-2003, 07:26 AM

yeah i think enjoyed it is the wrong word

yeah probly appreciated. they could have really stuffed it up but they didnt and thats why a lot of people think that the movie is absolutely screwed up... i enjoyed (yes that is the right word) Jake taking him down... UNCLE F**KING BULLY!!!!

Gangs of New York is so unbeleivably awesome and it sits just behind lord and oohhh im hyperventalating

Preist Vallon is a champ!

Baby-K · 02-13-2003, 07:40 AM

Jake's the man (my dad would prolly have killed the pig & fed him to the dogs)!

I am sooooooooo jealous re GoNY

Next time I'm coming with ya or else...............

Millane · 02-13-2003, 07:52 AM

ohhh your jealous again YAY!!!!!! *hands Baby K honey*
mmm i dunno if i like Jake or Nig better... mind you i am a fan of there beers f**king monsterous (VB will always look tiny in comparison...)

Baby-K · 02-13-2003, 08:00 AM

*takes honey* - thanks, now you'll see who's king!

VB looks small in comparison to anything...........

I lige Nig better - he's not such an ass like Jake sometimes tend to be

Millane · 02-13-2003, 08:08 AM

yeah Nig was awesome but he lacked the good things that Jake had... just that bar fight where he takes down that absolute nutcase who turns on the Jukebox... classy very classy

ohhh you still dont get it honey is good stuff and i dont mind it, so please theres your invite

ohhh nah you can get longnecks which are bout 750ml but those crazy kiwis drink longnecks like normal people drink stubbies... maybe thats just the tank Maori's

Baby-K · 02-13-2003, 08:19 AM

Well then

for you (ignore smily face - except the tongue sticking out part).

Whose fault is it that Aussies cannot handle their drink & need to consume smaller amounts than the rest of the world? Here we drink quarts (I think there's 750ml in that or maybe 1L) of Castle & Black Label

You might like honey know, just wait for the ants to get you you little..............argh

About Nig - I woulda done the same, that guy was really being a d*ck! Jake packs a good punch though, but I didn't like the fact that he seemed to think it's ok to use Beth as target practise

Millane · 02-13-2003, 08:41 AM

hey if it is good enough for John Claude van Damm it is good enough for Jake the Muss

look i know ill never be able to down a beer like you somehow manage but my guess is you'd probly be ****ed off one of there beers

hahaha i can take those ants... as i have told you pain no longer affects me

Baby-K · 02-13-2003, 08:47 AM

Ja, but Jean Claude van Damme is an ass!

Try 17L wine, 2 Bottles vodka, ½ bottle whiskey & about 4 quarts & you'll be closer to getting me f***ed

*hic*

What other movies do you like, besides Warriors?

Millane · 02-13-2003, 09:06 AM

hmmmm Gangs of New York MWAHAHAHAHAHA

ok ill be leniant 2 beers and your ****ed

hmmm other movies eh?
umm Last of the Mohicans, Tarantino, Four Rooms is pretty funny, Young and Dangerous, Gladiator of course meh i like lots

Baby-K · 02-13-2003, 09:10 AM

We've got very similar taste me & you (must be why we get on so well

*drinks a drink to Millane the pink the pink*

Millane · 02-13-2003, 09:19 AM

why is that so... tell me some of your fav movies (the home ones dont count

) and ill tell you yay or nay

Baby-K · 02-13-2003, 09:33 AM

Gladiator, Last of the Mohicans (so we have that in common already)

Traffic
From Dusk til Dawn ('cos it's quite cool to see Salma Hayek suck

)
I liked Braveheart too

Ag, there are quite a lot - I like action movies with a real story - or rather dramas with a lot of action?

And of course the animated gems - Hercules, Shrek, Mulan etc - I'm still a kid at heart

But I wasn't just referring to movies

Millane · 02-13-2003, 09:44 AM

oh yes

hmmm you do have a good taste in movies... i forgot about braveheart...
Bel del Toro was awesome in Traffic.
Hercules hahahahahahahaha yeah nice one

im sorry you want an action with a good story line watch Young and Dangerous... have you heard of it...
ohhh and i like Australian movies (mainly Chopper and Two Hands)
you are near on perfect Baby K (eliminate your love of inflicting pain and your there

)

Baby-K · 02-13-2003, 09:53 AM

Young & Dangerous? Rings a bell but I don't think I've watched it yet - will have to since it comes so highly recommended

I like SA movies too - Fiela se Kind, Paljas, Jock of the Bushveld etc, but I don't think you'd have seen any of them, we have a very small industry.

What do you mean near perfect? I don't inflict pain on you do I? Besides you said you could handle it..........

Millane · 02-13-2003, 09:58 AM

after your last pm you have redeemed yourself

Y&D are really huge chinese triad films they are awesome...
no i havent heard of any of those SA movies...
of course i can take the pain i just dont like it as much as the nice Baby K

Baby-K · 02-13-2003, 10:18 AM

I promise I won't hurt you (again)

I'm sure you'll be able to get Jock of the Bushveld somewhere - it's a really beautiful story, not really action but still.

Paljas was shortlisted for an Oscar Nomination years ago in the category "Best Foreign Film"

Blah - I wish the radio will stop playing Sk8ter Boi now

*sorry wrong thread - should move it to Venting*

See - I have some redeeming qualities, now if only my boss would believe that I'm not totally cuckoo

Millane · 02-13-2003, 10:25 AM

DAMN THAT SK8ER BITCH TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!

02-12-2003, 10:26 AM	#101
Baby-K Corruptor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jozi SA Posts: 1,885	Yeah I suppose it was OK, but the title is a bit misleading don't you think? I thought some of the themes intervowen in the movie was a bit forced (like Jake's sudden realisation of his responsibilities / search for redemption). Besides - as with all sequels the "punch" wasn't really there was it? It's like they just decided to throw together a plot based on a winner because everyone wanted to know "What now" at the end of Warriors. He never really answers the question posed in the title - does anyone really forgive Jake? And what about Beth, her pain was the most obvious, yet she isn't really treated as a warrior is she? Again the females are reduced to only being warriors at heart, while the men have all the fun. __________________ Don't wet yourself with excitement.

02-12-2003, 10:33 AM	#102
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	yeah it has nothing on Once Were Warriors... yeah i didnt think there was a need for a sequel but anyways... it had its good points (Jake going insane with a wrench) and poor Nig being killed... i thought it was good how it could be serious as all hell but mix a bit of humour back into it aswell (Once were warriors that is) there was some ****up with the gang wasnt there... Toa was actually a real gang over in NZ and they had to change it? __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

02-13-2003, 02:37 AM	#103
Baby-K Corruptor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jozi SA Posts: 1,885	Using the real gang as it were would have hit too close to home I think, people like watching movies based on reality or with a certain amount of real elements, but they do not want to face the fact that these things are actually real, it forces us to acknowledge the truth - that we aren't living in a perfect world. Already the violence etc scared some people away, imagine telling them that not only is the movie violent, it's real & it happens every day.... I enjoyed the rape scene in Warriors (OK not enjoy, that's the wrong word - read appreciated??), it was prolly the truest reflection of what rape really is - and also the woman's reaction after the event - very powerful & it seemed to bring home the idea that parking lot rape by strangers is not the prevalent form of assault, usually it is by family members / people that you know. Also in other movies they tend to move to some form of female "empowerment" after a rape case, whereas in Warriors they treated it the way society generally does - the victim is ashamed of what happened & wants to hide away from the world. Also the shower afterward as if trying to erase all memory of it (though it did catch up with her in the end didn't it?) __________________ Don't wet yourself with excitement.

02-13-2003, 07:26 AM	#104
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	yeah i think enjoyed it is the wrong word yeah probly appreciated. they could have really stuffed it up but they didnt and thats why a lot of people think that the movie is absolutely screwed up... i enjoyed (yes that is the right word) Jake taking him down... UNCLE F**KING BULLY!!!! Gangs of New York is so unbeleivably awesome and it sits just behind lord and oohhh im hyperventalating Preist Vallon is a champ! __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

02-13-2003, 07:40 AM	#105
Baby-K Corruptor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jozi SA Posts: 1,885	Jake's the man (my dad would prolly have killed the pig & fed him to the dogs)! I am sooooooooo jealous re GoNY Next time I'm coming with ya or else............... __________________ Don't wet yourself with excitement.

02-13-2003, 07:52 AM	#106
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	ohhh your jealous again YAY!!!!!! hands Baby K honey mmm i dunno if i like Jake or Nig better... mind you i am a fan of there beers f**king monsterous (VB will always look tiny in comparison...) __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

02-13-2003, 08:00 AM	#107
Baby-K Corruptor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jozi SA Posts: 1,885	takes honey - thanks, now you'll see who's king! VB looks small in comparison to anything........... I lige Nig better - he's not such an ass like Jake sometimes tend to be __________________ Don't wet yourself with excitement.

02-13-2003, 08:08 AM	#108
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	yeah Nig was awesome but he lacked the good things that Jake had... just that bar fight where he takes down that absolute nutcase who turns on the Jukebox... classy very classy ohhh you still dont get it honey is good stuff and i dont mind it, so please theres your invite ohhh nah you can get longnecks which are bout 750ml but those crazy kiwis drink longnecks like normal people drink stubbies... maybe thats just the tank Maori's __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

02-13-2003, 08:19 AM	#109
Baby-K Corruptor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jozi SA Posts: 1,885	Well then for you (ignore smily face - except the tongue sticking out part). Whose fault is it that Aussies cannot handle their drink & need to consume smaller amounts than the rest of the world? Here we drink quarts (I think there's 750ml in that or maybe 1L) of Castle & Black Label You might like honey know, just wait for the ants to get you you little..............argh About Nig - I woulda done the same, that guy was really being a d*ck! Jake packs a good punch though, but I didn't like the fact that he seemed to think it's ok to use Beth as target practise __________________ Don't wet yourself with excitement.

02-13-2003, 08:41 AM	#110
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	hey if it is good enough for John Claude van Damm it is good enough for Jake the Muss look i know ill never be able to down a beer like you somehow manage but my guess is you'd probly be ****ed off one of there beers hahaha i can take those ants... as i have told you pain no longer affects me __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

02-13-2003, 08:47 AM	#111
Baby-K Corruptor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jozi SA Posts: 1,885	Ja, but Jean Claude van Damme is an ass! Try 17L wine, 2 Bottles vodka, ½ bottle whiskey & about 4 quarts & you'll be closer to getting me f**ed hic* What other movies do you like, besides Warriors? __________________ Don't wet yourself with excitement.

02-13-2003, 09:06 AM	#112
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	hmmmm Gangs of New York MWAHAHAHAHAHA ok ill be leniant 2 beers and your ****ed hmmm other movies eh? umm Last of the Mohicans, Tarantino, Four Rooms is pretty funny, Young and Dangerous, Gladiator of course meh i like lots __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

02-13-2003, 09:10 AM	#113
Baby-K Corruptor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jozi SA Posts: 1,885	We've got very similar taste me & you (must be why we get on so well drinks a drink to Millane the pink the pink __________________ Don't wet yourself with excitement.

02-13-2003, 09:19 AM	#114
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	why is that so... tell me some of your fav movies (the home ones dont count ) and ill tell you yay or nay __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

02-13-2003, 09:33 AM	#115
Baby-K Corruptor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jozi SA Posts: 1,885	Gladiator, Last of the Mohicans (so we have that in common already) Traffic From Dusk til Dawn ('cos it's quite cool to see Salma Hayek suck ) I liked Braveheart too Ag, there are quite a lot - I like action movies with a real story - or rather dramas with a lot of action? And of course the animated gems - Hercules, Shrek, Mulan etc - I'm still a kid at heart But I wasn't just referring to movies __________________ Don't wet yourself with excitement.

02-13-2003, 09:44 AM	#116
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	oh yes hmmm you do have a good taste in movies... i forgot about braveheart... Bel del Toro was awesome in Traffic. Hercules hahahahahahahaha yeah nice one im sorry you want an action with a good story line watch Young and Dangerous... have you heard of it... ohhh and i like Australian movies (mainly Chopper and Two Hands) you are near on perfect Baby K (eliminate your love of inflicting pain and your there ) __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

02-13-2003, 09:53 AM	#117
Baby-K Corruptor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jozi SA Posts: 1,885	Young & Dangerous? Rings a bell but I don't think I've watched it yet - will have to since it comes so highly recommended I like SA movies too - Fiela se Kind, Paljas, Jock of the Bushveld etc, but I don't think you'd have seen any of them, we have a very small industry. What do you mean near perfect? I don't inflict pain on you do I? Besides you said you could handle it.......... __________________ Don't wet yourself with excitement.

02-13-2003, 09:58 AM	#118
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	after your last pm you have redeemed yourself Y&D are really huge chinese triad films they are awesome... no i havent heard of any of those SA movies... of course i can take the pain i just dont like it as much as the nice Baby K __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

02-13-2003, 10:18 AM	#119
Baby-K Corruptor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jozi SA Posts: 1,885	I promise I won't hurt you (again) I'm sure you'll be able to get Jock of the Bushveld somewhere - it's a really beautiful story, not really action but still. Paljas was shortlisted for an Oscar Nomination years ago in the category "Best Foreign Film" Blah - I wish the radio will stop playing Sk8ter Boi now sorry wrong thread - should move it to Venting See - I have some redeeming qualities, now if only my boss would believe that I'm not totally cuckoo __________________ Don't wet yourself with excitement.

02-13-2003, 10:25 AM	#120
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	DAMN THAT SK8ER BITCH TO HELL!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

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