09-29-2002, 06:54 PM | #101 |
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OK - let's see if this is the right file...
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
09-29-2002, 06:55 PM | #102 |
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oh my gosh, all these attachments are so pretty. my writing is different... i wish i had a scanner. oh well. some other time. i love the s-curls. they are soooo pretty.
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09-29-2002, 06:59 PM | #104 |
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Fun to compare our two styles - we write letters on different levels, and you like to use 's' while I like 'z', etc. And I like the 's' one direction and you like it the other way. Also, I just gave up trying to hear the difference between dh and th, so just always use the th symbol, where you used dh for 'that' and 'those'. Can you hear a big difference? I just ended up wasting so much time while writing that I chucked dh. However, I can still read it if someone else writes it.
Post another, please, when you get a chance. And happy birthday again!
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
09-29-2002, 07:21 PM | #105 |
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Oooh-pretty...Where did you find the thing on double consonants? Or was it on one of the pages that you posted links to back in the first page and I just didn't see it? Same goes for punctuation. Oh, and about the dh/th: I just randomly alternate between the two. *sheepish look* Here's the one I just dashed off, and the quality's kinda crappy, but:
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09-29-2002, 07:23 PM | #106 |
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Grr-I'm being kicked off the computer, and I don't know if I'll be back on tonight, as I have -dare I say it?- homework! Agh! The horror! Have fun with the one I just posted!
(by the way, Rian, I like your z's better than my s's; I think I'll start using the z's!)
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below the letter chart, paragraph starting with "the sound values of the tengwar". Read 2 paragraphs. dh/th - don't look sheepish, that's part of the fun of the Tengwar (for me, at least). JRR was constantly fiddling with it. He wrote some of his diaries in it, and would change mid-entry. Thanks for the riddle - here's my answer oh, and punctuation was a link off one of the two links I posted. Remind me in a few days if you can't find it, and I'll dig it up. No time now
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 09-30-2002 at 12:43 AM. |
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09-30-2002, 12:44 AM | #108 |
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katya - if you have a fairly new printer, it is probably also a scanner. You might want to try the detailed instructions I posted to TC a while back. I would sure like to see yours, too! Keep us posted ...
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
09-30-2002, 12:51 AM | #109 | |
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I re-scanned Tolkien's letter #118, hope this is better.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 09-30-2002 at 12:53 AM. |
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09-30-2002, 03:40 PM | #110 |
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really? i never thought of that. i can't figure it out though. i will look for the instruction manual. oh ya by the way i could read the message that said "hello entmooters! who can read this?" or whatever it said. i haven't been to this thread for a long time... maybe because i have nothing to say. i drew a picture and the title is really long-ish and written in the tengwar. it seemed wrong to write it in english. by the way, do you write phonetically or (close to) the real spelling? i started out doing it phonetically but now i mostly spell things right, so i dont confure myself. i think this has been mentioned before...oh well.
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09-30-2002, 03:52 PM | #111 |
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Hi katya - hey, we're on at the same time!
I generally write phonetically unless I think it isn't clear enough, then I will throw in the extra letters to help out. But, as I wrote to TC, I change all the time! Esp. words like 'you', which I think Tolkien wrote 'yow' in his letter #118, which I scanned and attached a few posts ago. I switch between 'yu' and 'you', depending upon my mood... If your printer is also a fax/copier, it should definitely work as a scanner. You don't even need the instruction manual, it should just work under programs-accessories-imaging, as I wrote in the detailed post about scanning. Good luck! I would really like to see some of your Tengwar.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
09-30-2002, 09:30 PM | #112 |
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well i went to programs/accesories and found no sign of "imaging". oh well whatever. by the way, do you ever make capitals? is there a way to do that?
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09-30-2002, 10:28 PM | #113 |
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Drat Did you ever find out if your printer was a scanner, too? Maybe you can just use the scanning program that came with it, if it is a scanner. Oh well, sorry it's not easier - I'd like to see some of your writing.
Whoops - Forgot About Capitals - No, I Haven't Seen Anything About Capitals. The only thing remotely relating to capitals is in the calligraphy link, where it says "sometimes names are in writing emphasized with larger initial tengwa. Further emphasis can be added by doubling the stem of the tengwa". However, I don't know if Tolkien did this or it was just the site writer's idea. I did use that idea, however, when I wrote "Gil Galad" (one of the attachments, I think gg1a) - I decorated the tengwar in his name and made them bigger. *sigh* I hope you can get something going... how frustrating.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 09-30-2002 at 10:33 PM. |
09-30-2002, 11:57 PM | #114 |
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Rian, you posted it backwards; the puncuation was right by the preceded-by-nasal thing in the first link, and the double consonants were in a link off the first link. It's ok, I found them just fine. Thank you for all the help! I totally, totally love Tengwar. Oh, and I absolutely adore your answer to the riddle! The fish is so cool, and the many s's are awesome! The Letter 118 was a little difficult; some places it wasn't quite clear what the letter was supposed to be. I did manage to muddle out a translation that was close enough to the actual one! Go me!
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09-30-2002, 11:59 PM | #115 |
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Oh, and also in the link with the double consonants is an excellent example of the s-curl: the link is to be found here.
(Rian, to do links like I just did, do [url = <insert url here>] random text here [/url])
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There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!! Last edited by TinuvielChild : 10-01-2002 at 12:07 AM. |
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Go You! and thanks for "talking Tengwar" with me, I've really enjoyed talking over the finer points of s-curls and vowel carriers, etc. I just love writing in it, and am glad you do, too.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 10-01-2002 at 12:44 PM. |
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Look at the writing across the very top. I'll "spoiler out" the translation, if you want to give it a try yourself first.
Now look at the Tengwar sentence at the top of the link, at how they write the word "Tengwar" - it is 'e' over 't', 'a' over a single character for 'ngw', then 'r'. Now look at how we have been writing Tengwar in the English mode in our attachments - see the difference? This sentence is in English mode, but the two Quenyan words are in Quenyan mode, which can be confusing because you have to know it is a Quenyan word or you can't figure it out, so I just spell Tengwar in the English mode. Can you find the other Quenyan word? Does this make sense? It's so hard to type out an explanation sometimes But you're right, it does show the s-curl and double consonants, which are apparently also used in the Quenyan mode. Well, must toddle off and do some work - I'll look forward to your response, and I hope all these long posts won't irritate/frustrate you. Keep writing that lovely Tengwar
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 10-01-2002 at 01:00 PM. |
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The other Quenyan word was "Aman"! And I did notice that it was the Quenyan style, but it had the double consonants and s-curls, which was all I was really looking for. I kinda skipped the other stuff. I've been writing all my notes for English class in Tengwar; isn't that fun? I feel happy; my English teacher is not only letting me read The Silmarillion for outside reading (upon which we will write book reports), but she's letting me classify it as "nonfiction"!!! She is acknowledging that The Silmarillion is not a work of fiction, it is a history! I intend to write little quotes in Tengwar around the border of the cover page, and possibly write "The Silmarillion" on the cover in purty Tengwar (with the English underneath, of course, so the poor unenlightened English teacher can tell what it's about )
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Silly me - I should have known you knew all that, you so obviously have a great grasp on Tengwar. It's hard to conduct conversations thru a keyboard over many days without forgetting what was said, and I was too lazy to page back and check! I just wanted to be sure you knew the difference between the modes, which you obviously do, because it really confused me for quite awhile when I first started looking at words written in Tengwar.
What a great teacher! WOW! Wasn't someone complaining over in the Venting thread that their teacher wouldn't let them read Sil or LoTR for credit?? (something like that...). If this is your first read of Sil, be prepared - it can be tough at first, but WELL worth the work! Someone just started a thread in the Sil forum "ok, am I the only one who..." about reading the Sil. You might want to bourre over there and check it out. BTW, how many times have you read LoTR?
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
10-01-2002, 07:41 PM | #120 |
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hey! well i am pretty sure my printer is not a scanner, but hey who knows. ill figure it out later. maybe i will use someone elses. anyhow, i usually do double the stem for capitals, if i even do them. hey by the way, i got out my calligraphy set. yay for me. it's fun to write with it.
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