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Sauron speaks: The war is gone All is gone The son of darkness/dark one from heaven has fallen The towers make confusion/ruin/disorder The enemy is in/within And (borne?) the light, soon they will come Pass now, my master, now hour you have Knowledges (incorrect pluralization?) is under. What does "cole" mean? Have something to do with "to bear" (col-) ?
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04-22-2003, 06:53 PM
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This is what I was trying to say... 'Unfair are you. I do not speak the Númenór language. And I do not wish to learn it. Do not you judge harsh. Is it not the Elves in which gave the language knowledge to Men in the beginning, in which they born?' I really need to work on my tense! Crap!! Crap!! Crappity crap-crap!  *tosses miscellaneous object across the room* Ok, I'm better now.  Next message. |
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04-22-2003, 07:07 PM
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The field is lost Everything is lost The black one has fallen from the sky and the towers in ruins lie The enemy is within, everywhere And with him the light, soon they will be here Go now, my lord, while there is time There are places below And I have translated it to: "The war is lost Everything is lost The black one from heaven/sky has fallen and the towers in ruins lie The enemy is within And [he] bears the light, soon they will come Go (dissapear) now, my lord, now that you have time places exists below" Nómer is supposed to be plural of the word nómë ("place"), isolated from Nómesseron ("of place-names").
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04-22-2003, 09:06 PM
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Ni istan ni quettar nar úmara.
 Ananta minë aurë ni quetuva quettar ve vanya ve i lindë filici. An san, ni caruva quettar ve i rocco. |
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04-22-2003, 09:57 PM
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Tancave, istan quetuval maara. Sii quetel Quenya maara.
Question, though: Did you mean "for now" in your last sentence- did you mean to say "Now I speak like a horse"? I believe the word for now is "sii". And you speak better than a horse. In the first sentence, it translates "I know I I words are ungood." "My words" would be "quettarenya" I think. Also, Falagar- "Noome", place in the plural would be "noomi". I think.
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"Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?" Last edited by OrnelÃrë Mistë : 04-22-2003 at 10:01 PM. |
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04-22-2003, 10:44 PM
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Here's what I meant to say...
"I know (my) words are not good. And yet one day I (shall) speak words as beautiful as the singing birds. Till then, I (shall) make words as the horse."  [quote]Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rë Mistë Tancave, istan quetuval maara. Sii quetel Quenya maara. "Sure as, I know you speak good. Now speak Quenya good." isn't 'good' mara and 'now' is sÃ*? I'm pretty sure on this one. Looking back I should have said... "Ni istan quettarinya nar úmara. Ananta minë aurë ni quetuva quettar ve vanya ve i lindë filici. An san, carin quettar ve i rocco." Or I could have used sÃ* in the last sentence.. "An sÃ*, carin quettar ve i rocco." |
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04-22-2003, 10:56 PM
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Sry to confuse you. .I do not know how to put accents over letters, so I double the vowel.
Now is how you wrote it, "si" with an accent over the i. I always thought mara had a long A, so I spelled it maara. I meant to say: Certainly, I know you will speak quenya well. You speak Quenya well now. EDIT: With research, two sources show that "mara" has an accent over the first A.
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"Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?" Last edited by OrnelÃrë Mistë : 04-22-2003 at 11:02 PM. |
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04-23-2003, 08:39 AM
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04-23-2003, 08:47 AM
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Still learning Quenya?
Was my text right Ruinel?
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04-23-2003, 10:56 AM
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Then back on the home page of the same site, scroll down to "A Taste of Elvish". Under "SOME COMMON ADJECTIVES" is mara, with an accent over the first A.
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04-23-2003, 02:53 PM
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04-23-2003, 04:05 PM
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04-23-2003, 06:50 PM
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"?You? thank, Wayfarer![Should be: Hantanyel = you I thank] (A) star shines upon the hour of our meeting! I wish it you possess happiness! (which is the proper way of wishing someone happiness) Farewell. " All good, except the thank you. I had trouble with that also. OrnelÃ*rë Mistë: if you want to put accents on your vowels and consonants, and you have word. First write out what you want to post in Word. When you need an accented vowel or consonant, go to the tool bar at the top...choose insert... then symbol and you should find all kinds of symbols for your use. Type your quote in Word. Highlight it, copy it, and paste it into your post. Tada! |
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04-23-2003, 10:09 PM
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Ruinel, hantanyel!
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04-24-2003, 11:31 AM
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Hanta: the verb 'to thank' -le: same as the english ending -ing (as in 'making', 'sitting') So, it would mean "[I] thanking you". I think. Edit> Or was the gerund ending -la? I have a very bad memory...
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04-24-2003, 12:30 PM
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that strange Thank-you word was in a Quenya wordlist. When I searched it on Ardalambion I couldn't find it. There was only the word for Thanksgiving.
And Ruinel, I haven't written the sentences by myself, as you may guess.
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04-24-2003, 07:08 PM
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To quote Ardalambion:
"Quenya also has an extended infinitive which adds the ending -ta; when added to the infinitive of a basic verb, its ending -ë instead appears as -i-: While the simplest infinitive of the verb car- "to do, to make" is carë, its extended infinitive is thus carita. The extended infinitive may receive pronominal endings denoting the object of the infinitive, e.g. -s "it" in caritas "to do it". The extended infinitive may also function as a gerund, that is, a verbal noun the English equivalent of which is formed with the ending -ing. (This English ending is also used to form active participles, but they are quite distinct in Quenya, ending in -la instead.)" And: "Another infinitival/gerundial ending is -ië, as in the verbal noun tyalië "play(ing)" vs. the basic verb tyal- "to play". The final -a of an A-stem verb would apparently be omitted before the ending -ië is added (and in the case of a verb ending in -ya, this entire ending would have to go, since **-yië would be an impossible combination). Combined with the dative ending -n "to, for", such gerunds in -ië may express the meaning of English infinitives signifying "[in order] to do": The verb enyal- "recall" is attested in the form enyalien "[in order] to recall/commemorate", which Tolkien explained as a gerund inflected for dative (UT:317)." So the endings "-ie" and "-ta" seem to gerundial.
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Lalaith: I did not guess. OrnelÃ*rë Mistë has been doing her homework.  |
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04-24-2003, 08:17 PM
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Hantanyel.
This post is also an excuse to see if my avatar works, and if it does, how it looks.Nope, doesnt work, odd. AHA! it is too large. odd because, it is smaller than most people's avatar. EDIT: yay, got it working. thank you Hunter!
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"Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?" Last edited by OrnelÃrë Mistë : 04-24-2003 at 08:36 PM. |
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