01-24-2005, 09:50 AM | #101 | |
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The Two times the Giants have won the Superbowl - NY did NOT give them a SuperBowl party - Mayor Koch even said "we do not give other state team's parades". ItalianLegolas - why would I hate you for rooting for the Steelers? I have boycotted the Giants and Jets since they slapped NJ in the face by putting the NY on their uniforms. As long as they play in NJ - and they wear that NY - I will not support them.
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01-24-2005, 09:52 AM | #102 | |
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And yes Nurv - they are a New JERSEY team who would like everyone to think they are a New York team. After having a 30 year agreement with New Jersey to remove the NY logo from their uniforms - they decided to put it back on after the Jets did. As for whether being able to see NY from the statium that does NOT make them NY teams. Does that make the Yankees NJ teams because you can see NJ from their stadium (where the Giants did play until NJ built them Giants Stadium, the Jets used to play in Shea). What about the knicks and Rangers? Damn - the Madison Square Garden is closer to the NJ border than the Meadolands is to NY. Thje Garden is about 2 miles from NJ - whereas the Meadowlands is about 10. If you look through this thread - you will see the history of the team, the hexes I have put on them (my voodoo doll is still good and strong ) One of my big complints is NY's attitude with "hosting" the Super Bowl. They can't host the super bowl and they know it. ONly NJ can host the Super Bowl. NY has NO control over Giants Stadium whatsoever. It's is NJ's Stadium and is controlled by the New JERSEY Sports Authority. BTW - the the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island are both in NJ waters right off our shore - NOT in NY. And it is New JERSEY who supplies the electricity, water and all utitilities to the islands. That is why when NY has blackouts - the statue and Ellis Island remain lit.
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I don't know why they wouldn't play as an NJ team though - it's not like people don't know where it is, especially football fans. Besides, consider the popularity of other NY teams - baseball fans seem less than pleased with the Yankees, and a lot of people don't like the Rangers. NJ just looks better and better... *goes back to lurking*
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I guess that would be the equivelant of the BC Lions putting AB (Alberta) on their uniforms. Business in football team voodoo dolls would boom. We have a friendly (most of the time) rivalry with Alberta too.
*okay now I'll go back to lurking*
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ok I think weve pretty much beaten that topic into the ground...
So any predictions for the Super Bowl? New England seems to be on a roll at the right time of the year. But McNabb seems so confident and so talented its hard to see who could stop him (of course I was saying the same thing about Manning...). And TO might be back too.
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so that would mean that the New England Patriots should really be the "Massachusetts" or "Boston" Patriots
where do most of the Jets and Giants players live?
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There was a movement after the Giants and Jets put NY on their uniforms - to rename Giant Stadium so everyone will know that they are playing in NJ. I had written to the NJ Sports Authority and they wrote back saying it was not NJ's policy to tell any company who makes their home in NJ what name they must have. They claimed that everyone in the country is well aware that they are NJ teams and that they make their home in NJ. Which is completely laughable. He was just trying to justify why NJ isn't making a big deal about this.
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HOW COULD THE STEELERS LOSE??? THEY HAD IT MADE!!! *crying* *sniffle*
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Sorry just couldn't resist.
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that is evil, just plain evil, I'm in mourning right now *sniff*
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You don't see the damn NY teams sharing logo space on their uniforms with NJ - so why should our teams? BTW - I hope NY rejects the west-end stadium for the Jets. That woudl be hilarious - I have the letters prepared I plan to mail to the team. They can go play back in Yankee stadium if they want to be NY teams so badly. Oh - and another thing - the giants lost this year AGAIN. Mwahahahahaha
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Hell - I used to go to Giants Stadium. No more though. Oh and you cut out the rest of my sentencce when you quoted me. As I said - I'm a FAN of TRUE New JERSEY teams. YOu know- the ones that are PROUD to let people know they are NJ teams. Not ones that put on a logo to make people think they are from that place across the river. I'm glad the MetroStars have finally stopped going by the name NY/NJ Metrostars.
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why dont you start a petition to bring back the USFL and the Jersey Generals. I hear Hershal Walker is still available.
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For information - several years ago - during Talk Back Live on CNN - when they had on representatives from NY discussing bringing the Super Bowl to NY - aka the Meadowlands to ignorant NYers. I e-mailed the show where they read my letter and said I was correct - NY can't host the super bowl. The New Yorkers answer was that technically every thinks of them as NY teams and that it's NY. But it doesn't matter what people may think - it's the fact that they have no control over Giants Stadium or any say whatsoever of what events are held there. That is one of the reasons why NY is pushing for the West End Stadium now. And why should we bring back the Generals when we have TWO NJ NFL teams? Why not just give us the recognition for the NFL. As for people on Entmoot not caring about football and why should I be posting here about it - then I suppose we can just close this thread. What is the PURPOSE of this thread if it's not for people who are into football? For this thread to be active - there must be some peole on Entmoot who care about football. Also - are you afraid of a little education on the subject? Whether you arer tired of me discussing this or not - I will not stop posting about this - as long as I see people such as Oslomn saying that the Giants and Jets are NY teams but just play in NJ. They aren't - they are NY teams who MOVED to NJ - and became New JERSEY teams. They relinquished their NY team status when they moved acorss the river and New JERSEY built them their stadium, they removed the NY from BOTH their unififorms for 30 years. They wanted a initials on their uniforms - they could have and SHOULD have put NJ n them.
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