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Old 09-25-2008, 05:49 PM   #1
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'rent' is not correct.

And Melian isn't even close.
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Like I said, it was a wild shot in the dark. That word I guessed before.. is it "left"?
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grief

How about Beleg?
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Nope and nope. Grief has an extra letter, anyway.
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Curufin - "grief" fits in one of the unsolved words (from DPR's guess).

"kept" for the other?
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I'm pretty certain 'grief' IS correct and I think you got the last word with 'kept' Val.

Now for a speaker...no idea...Ulmo?
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I've checked... hold on. No clue really where to find it...

Okay. I've found it. "Grief" is correct, "kept" is not (that one's actually quite the doozy!)
Ulmo is not the speaker.

I learned a new word looking up the doozy one!
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It can't possibly be 'leet' can it?

Wait, I think I've got a guess. How about "reft"?

Here's where we currently stand:

Indeed the mind of Iluvatar concerning you is not known to the valar, and he has not revealed all things that are to come. But this we hold to be true, that your home is not here, neither in the land of Aman nor anywhere within the circles of the world. And the Doom of Men, that they should depart,was at first a gift of Iluvatar. It became a grief to them only because coming under the shadow of Morgoth it seemed to them that they were surrounded by a great darkness of which they were afraid; and some grew wilful and proud and would not yield until life was /_e_t/ from them.

Speaker: ???
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reft is it!!! Holy cow, you're amazing, DPR!

Speaker is still left, though.
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Hmmmm... who would say a word like 'reft'?

Finrod Felagund?
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reft is it!!! Holy cow, you're amazing, DPR!
Thanks. It's funny how the mind works...
I was thinking about the other word, 'grief', and how it, and death, might relate to 'their life was _e_t from them'. 'Bereft' popped into my head. Then I thought, hmm, if the 'be' is a prefix, then 'reft' must be a word. In other words it was a combination of letting the mind wander in a stream of consciousness and pure luck. I didn't know the word 'reft' until today, or at least I wasn't aware if I did.

How about Eönwë? Speaking to some of the Edain after the War of Wrath?
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It's actually past tense of the word "reave"... so "bereave" makes sense there too... Huh... you learn something new each day.

The speaker is neither of your guesses... it's actually kind of vague, so just keep guessing and if you get close, I'll give it to you. I promise it'll be fair!
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Oh - is it an un-named Elven messenger of Manwe - I forget if they came from Avallone or Aman (which??) - speaking to the Numenoreans - a Numenorean King (also not named, I think) specifically?
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Yes.. it says "messengers", so if you said messengers or Manwe, I would have given it to you. However, you, Val, have said both, so your turn it is.. plus a bonus point!
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The quote has to be from UT. I know I'd recognize it if it was from Sil, TH, or LotR.

An elf visiting the west coast of Numenor, talking to Erendis, perhaps?
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:18 PM   #17
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No, as a matter of fact, it was in the Silmarillion. Of course it was in the Akallabeth.. or whatever the Numenor section is...
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Yes - Akallabeth. Here's the next:

"D_n'_/b_/a_s_r_/!/H_/i_/a_/e_e_y/_u_t_/b_y_n_/
t_e/_o_e_s/_f/_l_/t_e/_w_r_e_/p_t/_o_e_h_r/,
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_h_/f_u_/c_r_e_s/_f/_h_/w_r_d/.
/_h_/o_e/_h_n_/y_u_/f_t_e_/w_s_e_/w_s/_o_/h_s/
_o_/t_/r_a_/t_e/_a_/a_d/_s_/t_e/_e_/.
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"Don't be /a_s_r_/!/ He is an enemy /_u_t_/ beyond
the /_o_e_s/ of all the Dwarves put together,
if they could all be collected /a_a_n/ from
the four corners of the world.
The one thing your father wished was you his
son to /r_a_/ the /_a_/ and /_s_/ the /_e_/.
The /_r_g_n/ and the /_o_n_a_n/ are more
than big enough tasks for you!"
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"Don't be absurd! He is an enemy /_u_t_/ beyond the /_o_e_s/ of all the Dwarves put together, if they could all be collected again from the four corners of the world. The one thing your father wished was you his son to /r_a_/ the /_a_/ and /_s_/ the /_e_/. The dragon and the mountain are more than big enough tasks for you!"

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