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Wait - Canada has a history seperate from the United States? Just kidding, honestly - but couldn't resist.
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02-02-2002, 12:17 AM | #102 |
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Aye, Wayfarer. I believe it is better to be safe than sorry as far as the soul is concerned.
And Laurelyn, regarding multiple "universes" or what I like to call the existence of a "multiverse", my position is that it is possible but not necessarily true nor false until I get convincing facts. In this case, it will neither hurt nor make me better off being wrong or right in whether or not it exists. Now people can start talking about whether the light turns off when you close the refrigerator; but I guess the gods in this case are the manufacturers and most of us know where the switch is.
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As for a logical God/entity . . . evolution is more logical than any God/entity. Just because there isn't one supernatural, all-powerful guiding force doesn't make it illogical. Hence, since it is logical, the world created through it can still be rational and worth considering. Just curious: What do you think is the point of living? I was discussing this with a friend the other day. She is a strong believer in fate and was upset because, by her logic, if everything is already set and determined by God, what's the point in doing anything? On the other hand, if everything is completely random and meaningless by evolution, well, that's not cool either. Personally I feel that all the meaning in my life comes from other people, my friendships with them and their complexity and imperfectibility. It would be nice to know, though. Or maybe not. Whew! Metaphysics is interesting. I love my avatar!
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Regarding if everything is already set and determined by God, I think I have nothing to worry about. I'll do what I think is right and go on for the ride (think calm streams then rapids then rivers, etc). I was also taught that I was given some free will. On the other hand, if everything is random, I think the I still have some influence of what goes on. That brings us back to books and drugs. When you read a book, you can completely control the experience by either believing or disbelieving what is written. When you imagine the world that is written, you are the god of that world. With drugs, sometimes you can't control that world. Youre at the mercy of the dosage, your predisposition, your more active than usual imagination, etc. BTW, nice Avatar you got there FrodoFriend.
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02-02-2002, 03:51 AM | #105 |
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Thanks! I love my avatar!
Plus books are much cheaper than drugs. And more convenient. You don't have to sniff things up your nose or stick needles into yourself to get books. And when someone recommends a book to you, you don't have to report them to the police.
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02-02-2002, 02:28 PM | #106 |
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Books are better than drugs because, no matter how many of them you have in your locker, you're not going to get into trouble.
Book are better than drugs because you don't have to sit in a 'readers' section in public places.
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I was GONNA write that "Books are Better Than Drugs" because you can't get addicted to books, but I don't have time--I'm late for my Tolkien-aholics Anonymous meeting.
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02-02-2002, 05:03 PM | #108 |
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Books are better than drugs because they don't make you smell odd.
Books are better than drugs because . . . well, I've never tried drugs, so by default books are better!
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02-02-2002, 07:37 PM | #110 |
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You will be welcomed with open arms. Just memorize this phrase: "My name is Laurelyn, and I'm a Tolkien-aholic." Coffee and donuts served afterwards, smoking allowed outside only. And NO SURNAMES!!
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02-02-2002, 08:40 PM | #111 |
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Books are better than drugs because if you read a book in front of your parents, you are praised.
Books are better than drugs because most of them make you smarter, not dumber. Oh, FF, I believe the meaning of life is to live for Christ and live your life to it's full potential. Perhaps I am a Christian humanist? Hmm...::laugh:: I dont think that everythign is already set out to happen...I believe in something called 'alternate predestination' (I made that up, but it makes sense)....it's confusing and long winded though. But I do'nt care if you don't believe the same as me, you're still cool.
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Books are better and drugs because you can share them with your friends and not have to worry about getting any nasty disease passed on.
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I dunno . . . if Christ exists, I doubt he needs me to live for him. So I'll just live the best I can and hopefully it'll satisfy whoever's watching up there! And there isn't anyone, well that's okay too! Books are better than drugs because . . . book hallucinations are more fun than drug hallucinations. "Bookworm" sounds better than "stoner."
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I have been trying to keep out of this arguement. I don't think that arguing really works to prove Christianity. I am really sorry some of you are so "lost" in you beliefs, and I hope that you will one day find the truth. But, I don't dislike any just because you are not a Christian, and I hope it doesn't put a "barrier" between any of us.
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02-03-2002, 10:24 AM | #115 |
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I think I gave a mouthful into this discussion because I find it fascinating. I come from a very catholic country (about 80 to 90%) and its interesting for me to see how other people's beliefs are different or similar to mine.
After a while it gets pretty boring with many of the people your with being taught to think a certain belief and everyone avoiding discussions for fear of being called blasphemous. Good thing I don't live in one of those countries where it is a state offense as well (death penalty). I respect and find everyone here quite interesting and fun to talk to as well.
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Mirrille - That was funny. I have a friend that lives in Canada - so I'm always teasing her. I've never had a friend in a coma for 7 days from reading a book, although I did have a friend in a coma from a drug overdose.
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emplynx, you obviously have not been trying to keep out of the 'argument' hard enough. Please be quite. Nottice that I said please. We are not discussing that any more..........so enough with all that.
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emplynx, if you're referring to me, I don't feel "lost" at all. Why should I have to find the "truth" in my lifetime? If I knew everything, life would be boring. I am perfectly content to let life be a mystery. After death, I'll know. Actually, I think it's a bit arrogant for people to claim they know for sure all about life/death/God, etc.
ANYWAY, Books are better than drugs!!! Sorry, HOBBIT, but it's hard to stay out of a discussion like this!
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FF, I wasn't refering to anyone in particular...
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