The Official Languages Thread - Page 59

Lalaith · 03-07-2004, 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by Janny
Is German as distant from Austrian as US English is from UK English?

Hmmm, I think that US English and UK English are more different than German German and Austrian German.
I mean, we have the same dictionaries and everything.
In English sometimes words are spelt a different way in the UK and the US. We don't have that.
It's just two or three words which are different. And some colloquial words.

Hmm, it is different with Switzerland. They use a lot of words we don't use.

Lin, I'm ignoring that comment of yours.

Grey_Wolf · 03-07-2004, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen
Svenska-Engelska-Bahasa Indonesia

I've just put the singular in, because Indonesian plurals are mostly formed by doubling the word (which may be a tad monotonous for this).
I'm not sure if the words for lorry etc exist in the language, so I've left them blank.

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Man/Män - Man/Men- Orang laki-laki

Kvinna/Kvinnor - Woman/Women -Orang perempuan

Barn - Child/Children- Anak

Hund/Hundar - Dog/Dogs - Anjing

Katt/Katter - Cat/Cats - Kucing

*****************

Lejon - Lion/Lions - Singa

Leopard/Leoparder - Leopard/Leopards - Macan tutul

Gepard/Gerparder - Cheetah/Cheetahs - ?

*****************

Bil/Bilar - Car/Cars - Mobil

Cykel/Cyklar - Bike/Bikes - Sepeda

Lastbil/Lastbilar - Lorry/Lorries- ?

******************

Höghus - Tower Block/Blocks - Blok menara

Skyskrapa/Skyskrapor - Skyscraper/scrapers -Pencakar langit

Villa/Villor - House/Houses -Rumah

Bod/Bodar - Shed/Sheds- Bangsal

*******************

Dator/Datorer - Computor/s - Komputer

Räknare - Calculator/s- Mesin hitung

*******************

Ugn/Ugnar - Oven/s - Tanur

Spis/Spisar - Stove/s - Kompur

Sked/Skedar - Spoon/s - Sendok

Gaffel/Gafflar - Fork/s - Garpu

Kniv/Knivar - Knife/Knives- Pisau

Tallrik/Tallrikar - Plate/s - Piring

Oh- and is there more than one way to spell 'tallrik'? Or have I
been spelling it wrong?

Sorry, I spelled it wrong.

(And I've put backgroundpictures on first and book/filmlist pages now to flesh them out a bit. Have a look.)

Grey_Wolf · 03-07-2004, 07:06 AM

I'm back.

Lalaith · 03-07-2004, 09:05 AM

Lin, ich kenne nichts, das so schön ist wie du!

Ich könnte tagelang von dir erzählen
I could talk about you for days

ohne deinen namen auch nur einmal zu erwähnen
without mentioning your name just once

unter Schmerzen oder unter Tränen
With pain and with tears

würde dein Name als meine Linderung dienen
Would your name be my healing (not really healing, abatement says the dictionary)

jede deiner Bewegungen sind erstrebenswert
All of your movements are desirable

und jede Stunde mit dir ist so lebenswert
And each hour with you is so worth living

Heheh, that's just for you.

Linaewen · 03-07-2004, 09:19 AM

Danke, Lai! Let me know if you ever need a translation from English to...errr...English.

Du är en ganska märklig person, Grey! Quoting such a long post.

Å, och på dina sidor kan jag se dina bilder. De är mycket fina! Varför bor din syster i Canberra? Det är inte så intressant, tror jag.

***Earniel*** · 03-07-2004, 09:51 AM

Svenska-Engelska-Bahasa Indonesia- Nederlands

Man/Män - Man/Men- Orang laki-laki - man/mannen

Kvinna/Kvinnor - Woman/Women -Orang perempuan - vrouw/vrouwen

Barn - Child/Children- Anak - kind/kinderen

Hund/Hundar - Dog/Dogs - Anjing - hond/honden

Katt/Katter - Cat/Cats - Kucing - kat/katten

*****************

Lejon - Lion/Lions - Singa - Leeuw/leeuwen

Leopard/Leoparder - Leopard/Leopards - Macan tutul - luipaard/luipaarden

Gepard/Gerparder - Cheetah/Cheetahs - ? - cheetah /cheetahs (jachtluipaard/jachtluipaarden)

*****************

Bil/Bilar - Car/Cars - Mobil- auto/auto's

Cykel/Cyklar - Bike/Bikes - Sepeda - fiets/fietsen

Lastbil/Lastbilar - Lorry/Lorries- ? - vrachtwagen/vrachtwagens

******************

Höghus - Tower Block/Blocks - Blok menara - (flatgebouw/flatgebouwen)

Skyskrapa/Skyskrapor - Skyscraper/scrapers -Pencakar langit - (wolkenkrabber/wolkenkrabbers)

Villa/Villor - House/Houses -Rumah - huis/huizen

Bod/Bodar - Shed/Sheds- Bangsal - stal/stallen

*******************

Dator/Datorer - Computor/s - Komputer - computer/computers

Räknare - Calculator/s- Mesin hitung - rekenmachine/rekenmachines

*******************

Ugn/Ugnar - Oven/s - Tanur - oven/ovens

Spis/Spisar - Stove/s - Kompur - stoof/stoven

Sked/Skedar - Spoon/s - Sendok - lepel/ lepels

Gaffel/Gafflar - Fork/s - Garpu - vork/vorken

Kniv/Knivar - Knife/Knives- Pisau - mes/messen

Talrik/Talrikar - Plate/s - Piring - bord/borden

Grey_Wolf · 03-07-2004, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen
Danke, Lai! Let me know if you ever need a translation from English to...errr...English.

Du är en ganska märklig person, Grey! Quoting such a long post. Å, och på dina sidor kan jag se dina bilder. De är mycket fina! Varför bor din syster i Canberra? Det är inte så intressant, tror jag.

Min syster bor Canberra därför att hennes man är australiensare. Dom flyttade dit för två år sedan. Innan hade dom bott i Thailand (Charlotte, nu 14 år), Malaysia (David, nu 12 år), Schweiz, Taiwain (Julian, nu 7 år) och Frankrike (hans karriär gjorde att de inte kunde bo på ett ställe mer än 18 månader).

Lalaith · 03-07-2004, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen
Danke, Lai! Let me know if you ever need a translation from English to...errr...English.

*lol*

Well, it's the least I can do for all you have done for me.

I would still say -loose- if it wasn't for you. Hehehe.

Linaewen · 03-07-2004, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grey_Wolf
Min syster bor Canberra därför att hennes man är australiensare. Dom flyttade dit för två år sedan. Innan hade dom bott i Thailand (Charlotte, nu 14 år), Malaysia (David, nu 12 år), Schweiz, Taiwain (Julian, nu 7 år) och Frankrike (hans karriär gjorde att de inte kunde bo på ett ställe mer än 18 månader).

Å. Hur möttes din syster en australiensare? Häftigt, de har bott på många ställe! Ja, kom hit, till Australien! Om du gick till Australien, det skulle bli ganska bra.

Nerdanel - före du säga något- jag vet.

Grey_Wolf · 03-08-2004, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen
Å. Hur möttes din syster en australiensare? Häftigt, de har bott på många ställe! Ja, kom hit, till Australien! Om du gick till Australien, det skulle bli ganska bra.

Nerdanel - före du säga något- jag vet.

Dom möttes i Thailand när syrran jobbade på Tetrapak, gifte sig '89 här hemma. Min syrra har bott utomlands i stort sett sen hon var 16 (förutom ett par år när gick på universitetet i Göteborg. Under den tiden åkte hon till östasien på projektresa (Japan, Sydkorea, Thailand, Taiwan och tror t o m dom var i Kina).

Nerdanel · 03-08-2004, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen
Om du gick till Australien, det skulle bli ganska bra.

Nerdanel - före du säga något- jag vet.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-09-2004, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grey_Wolf
The Formidable Grey Wolf Is Back With Yet Another Incredible List:

Häskarringen - Swedish

The Lord of the Rings - English

Le Seigneur des Anneaux - French

Der Herr der Ringe - German

In de Ban van de Ring - Dutch

Il Signore degli Anelli - Italian

El Señor de los Anillos - Spanish

- Greek

- Russian

- Islandic

Ringenes Herre - Norwegian

- Danish

Taru Sormusten Herrasta - Finnish

- Lithuanian

- Estonian

- Latvian

- Polish

- Belgian

- Luxemburgian

...just to begin with (anyone know the title in remaining languages?)

as they speak french in luxembourg, the luxemburgian eould be
Le Seigneur des Anneaux

Grey_Wolf · 03-09-2004, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Last Child of Ungoliant
as they speak french in luxembourg, the luxemburgian eould be
Le Seigneur des Anneaux

The Formidable Grey Wolf Is Back With Yet Another Incredible List:

Häskarringen - Swedish

The Lord of the Rings - English

Le Seigneur des Anneaux - French & Luxemburgian

Der Herr der Ringe - German

In de Ban van de Ring - Dutch

Il Signore degli Anelli - Italian

El Señor de los Anillos - Spanish

Ringenes Herre - Norwegian

Taru Sormusten Herrasta - Finnish

***Earniel*** · 03-09-2004, 04:24 PM

Now that I see all these titles together it's actually strange that the Dutch one seems to be the only one that isn't a straight translation of 'Lord of the Rings'. I say 'seem' because I can't be sure of the exact meaning of the swedish and finnish because 1) I don't know those languages and 2) can't compare them to other languages to get at their meaning.

Radagast The Brown · 03-09-2004, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Last Child of Ungoliant
as they speak french in luxembourg, the luxemburgian eould be
Le Seigneur des Anneaux

My 'Encyclopedic Atlas of the world' disagrees with you. It says that in Luxemburg, the people speak German, French and Luxemburgian.

Nerdanel · 03-09-2004, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eärniel
Now that I see all these titles together it's actually strange that the Dutch one seems to be the only one that isn't a straight translation of 'Lord of the Rings'. I say 'seem' because I can't be sure of the exact meaning of the swedish and finnish because 1) I don't know those languages and 2) can't compare them to other languages to get at their meaning.

The Finnish title means The story of the Lord of the Rings, if that makes any sense.

Falagar · 03-09-2004, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eärniel
Now that I see all these titles together it's actually strange that the Dutch one seems to be the only one that isn't a straight translation of 'Lord of the Rings'. I say 'seem' because I can't be sure of the exact meaning of the swedish and finnish because 1) I don't know those languages and 2) can't compare them to other languages to get at their meaning.

The Swedish title means "The ruling ring", if I'm not much mistaken...

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-09-2004, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
My 'Encyclopedic Atlas of the world' disagrees with you. It says that in Luxemburg, the people speak German, French and Luxemburgian.

yes, but french is most widely spoken language

Nerdanel · 03-09-2004, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Falagar
The Swedish title means "The ruling ring", if I'm not much mistaken...

You're not mistaken.

Falagar · 03-09-2004, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nerdanel
You're not mistaken.

Yay!

The Swedish translation got a lot of bad critic, even Tolkien himself disliked it.

03-07-2004, 07:06 AM	#1163
Grey_Wolf Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, well actually I live in North-west Scania, Sweden Posts: 9,481	I'm back. Last edited by Grey_Wolf : 03-07-2004 at 07:38 AM.

03-07-2004, 09:05 AM	#1164
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Lin, ich kenne nichts, das so schön ist wie du! Ich könnte tagelang von dir erzählen I could talk about you for days ohne deinen namen auch nur einmal zu erwähnen without mentioning your name just once unter Schmerzen oder unter Tränen With pain and with tears würde dein Name als meine Linderung dienen Would your name be my healing (not really healing, abatement says the dictionary) jede deiner Bewegungen sind erstrebenswert All of your movements are desirable und jede Stunde mit dir ist so lebenswert And each hour with you is so worth living Heheh, that's just for you. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-07-2004, 09:51 AM	#1166
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Svenska-Engelska-Bahasa Indonesia- Nederlands Man/Män - Man/Men- Orang laki-laki - man/mannen Kvinna/Kvinnor - Woman/Women -Orang perempuan - vrouw/vrouwen Barn - Child/Children- Anak - kind/kinderen Hund/Hundar - Dog/Dogs - Anjing - hond/honden Katt/Katter - Cat/Cats - Kucing - kat/katten *************** Lejon - Lion/Lions - Singa - Leeuw/leeuwen Leopard/Leoparder - Leopard/Leopards - Macan tutul - luipaard/luipaarden Gepard/Gerparder - Cheetah/Cheetahs - ? - cheetah /cheetahs (jachtluipaard/jachtluipaarden) ************* Bil/Bilar - Car/Cars - Mobil- auto/auto's Cykel/Cyklar - Bike/Bikes - Sepeda - fiets/fietsen Lastbil/Lastbilar - Lorry/Lorries- ? - vrachtwagen/vrachtwagens ************** Höghus - Tower Block/Blocks - Blok menara - (flatgebouw/flatgebouwen) Skyskrapa/Skyskrapor - Skyscraper/scrapers -Pencakar langit - (wolkenkrabber/wolkenkrabbers) Villa/Villor - House/Houses -Rumah - huis/huizen Bod/Bodar - Shed/Sheds- Bangsal - stal/stallen *************** Dator/Datorer - Computor/s - Komputer - computer/computers Räknare - Calculator/s- Mesin hitung - rekenmachine/rekenmachines ***************** Ugn/Ugnar - Oven/s - Tanur - oven/ovens Spis/Spisar - Stove/s - Kompur - stoof/stoven Sked/Skedar - Spoon/s - Sendok - lepel/ lepels Gaffel/Gafflar - Fork/s - Garpu - vork/vorken Kniv/Knivar - Knife/Knives- Pisau - mes/messen Talrik/Talrikar - Plate/s - Piring - bord/borden __________________ We are not things.

03-09-2004, 04:24 PM	#1174
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Now that I see all these titles together it's actually strange that the Dutch one seems to be the only one that isn't a straight translation of 'Lord of the Rings'. I say 'seem' because I can't be sure of the exact meaning of the swedish and finnish because 1) I don't know those languages and 2) can't compare them to other languages to get at their meaning. __________________ We are not things.

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03-07-2004, 09:19 AM	#1165
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	Danke, Lai! Let me know if you ever need a translation from English to...errr...English. Du är en ganska märklig person, Grey! Quoting such a long post. Å, och på dina sidor kan jag se dina bilder. De är mycket fina! Varför bor din syster i Canberra? Det är inte så intressant, tror jag.