Iraq - Page 56

jerseydevil · 03-13-2003, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by sun-star
America is an incredibly powerful country. If you go to war, or become isolationist, it affects everyone. So we care about you, even if you don't care about us.

Well it's obvious we care about you - if we didn't we wouldn't spend billions in tax dollars to protect you - especially during the cold war.

Given the choice - would you rather have France have it's dream of building a EU controlled by them or deal with America?

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I never said that.

Other's have and all any American has to do is watch the 100,00 anti-war "ant-Anmerican" protestors marching in European cities. They say they're not anti-American at the same time as walking around with our flag with a nazi symbol on it - or with our president dressed up as Hitler. I want to see a 100,000 people in ONE European city demontsrate against Hussein instead of sending a busload of "Human Shields" to protect that tyrant.

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I wasn't implying that to you specifically at all (if only English had a plural for "you"!). If you hated Europeans I don't suppose you would be replying to me. You're allowed to care more about America than Europe - I certainly care most about Britain, since it's my home I was just suggesting that intolerance and prejudice can go both ways across the Atlantic. Americans are not the innocent victims of the evil prejudices of other nationalities. They can be as annoying as the French sometimes. So can the British, even I admit that

I admit there are ignorant Americans. People who didn't know how the election process actually worked and then complained about it is one example. But most Eropeans don't realise how large our country is - it is larger than Europe. I mapped out where I would have lived in Europe by comparing the distances of all the places I have lived in the US. I have basically lived in London, Belgium, Germany, Turkey, Sweden and Russia (around the Ural Mountains). Yet Europeans constantly say we don't speak other languages and we don't know passports. I don't need a passport to go to Mexico or to Canada or anywhere in the US. Both the US and Canada are English speaking countries - we don't get a chance to USE our foreign language skills. Don't use it - you lose it. If New York required me to have a passport or they spoke a different language - I would have a passport (although I do because I've been to England) and I would speak New Yorker. In order to go to France from England you still need both of these things.

Dúnedain · 03-13-2003, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by jerseydevil
I would speak New Yorker.

I speak that everyday

On a lighter note, I have something for everyone

Do you know what time it is?

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-13-2003, 06:34 PM

Judging from the name, I think that's been posted twice before. Once by me.

Quite funny.

Dúnedain · 03-13-2003, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Judging from the name, I think that's been posted twice before. Once by me. Quite funny.

Damn! I guess that's what happens when I don't view all the threads or read what I missed over the past few weeks

jerseydevil · 03-13-2003, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Dúnedain
I speak that everyday

I usually add that New Yorkers actually do speak another language. New York=New Yauk; New Jersey=New Joisey (this one is erroneously attributed to New Jerseyans themselves - but we KNOW how to pronounce our state, unlike the inhabitants across the river.)

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On a lighter note, I have something for everyone

Do you know what time it is?

The you missed all my MadBlast ones. You'll have to go back and search for them.

Dúnedain · 03-13-2003, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by jerseydevil
I usually add that New Yorkers actually do speak another language. New York=New Yauk; New Jersey=New Joisey (this one is erroneously attributed to New Jerseyans themselves - but we KNOW how to pronounce our state, unlike the inhabitants across the river.)

The you missed all my MadBlast ones. You'll have to go back and search for them.

Well, being a native New Yorker, don't even get me started on Jersey!

jerseydevil · 03-13-2003, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by Dúnedain
Well, being a native New Yorker, don't even get me started on Jersey!

We better not get the New Jersey/New York wars going -let's just stick together on Iraq.

Just remeber - the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island are both in New Jersey waters - not New York.

And we don't call it Jersey - it's NEW Jersey. New Yorkers are so lazy.

Coney · 03-13-2003, 08:11 PM

Speaking of the Statue of Libertarianism....

Will you be sending it back to France soon?

jerseydevil · 03-13-2003, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by Coney
Speaking of the Statue of Libertarianism....

Will you be sending it back to France soon?

No - it's ours. It doesn't have a French Flag flying near it. Why would we give it back? It represents America - not France. If it represented France then she'd have to have her hands up.

There are a lot of World War II veterans giving their medals back to France though.

Coney · 03-13-2003, 08:22 PM

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No - it's ours. It doesn't have a French Flag flying near it. Why would we give it back? It represents America - not France. If it represented France then she'd have to have her hands up.

Do you deny that the Statue of Liberty was given to the US after the French Revolution........which the US caused by pleading money from French Royalty to fund the colonial war????

That statue is 2000 tons of copper!...The French should at least get scrap value in return

yeesh you spend half the thread dissing those who made you what you are

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-13-2003, 08:37 PM

The operative word here being 'given'.

jerseydevil · 03-13-2003, 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by Coney
Do you deny that the Statue of Liberty was given to the US after the French Revolution........which the US caused by pleading money from French Royalty to fund the colonial war????

The US didn't cause the French Revolution. I like again something is AMERICA's fault. The overthrow of the British out of America was just as much in French interest - or do you deny that Britain and France were in perpetual war?

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That statue is 2000 tons of copper!...The French should at least get scrap value in return

I guess we shold send them a bill for the liberation of France durign World War II - not to mention their protection during the Cold War. Isn't it ironic that they left NATO during the height of the Cold War and rejoined after it was over???? They enjoyed the protection of NATO without the responsibility.

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yeesh you spend half the thread dissing those who made you what you are

Made us what we are? How did they do that? The French didn't even come into the war until after we were winning. At least when we entered World War II - we didn't wait until a sure win and take the easy way of claiming victory. What role did France have in writing our Declaration of Independence or the Constitution? Nothing. The turning point of the Revolution came in December 1776 with the Battle of Trenton and the Battle of Princeton.

It took American ingenuity to build the Panama Canal after the bungling attempt by the French. America finished the job - under budget and ahead of schedule.

Coney · 03-13-2003, 08:50 PM

ROFLMAO!!!!

How quick you turn history from a pro to a con JD

jerseydevil · 03-13-2003, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Coney
ROFLMAO!!!!

How quick you turn history from a pro to a con JD

I'm just stating facts - you can take them anyway you want. You're the one that said we caused the French Revolution and that complete bullsh*t.

Dúnedain · 03-13-2003, 09:38 PM

From this point forward I refuse to acknowledge Coney. He is a waste of my time [FLAME DELETED] It is clear he is just trying to get crap started and has no clear sense of reality. I will not combat or argue anything he says, . [FLAME DELETED]I welcome JD and anyone else with this common bond of ignoring a useless creature...

I do however welcome intelligent conversation and debate with anyone else

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Coney · 03-13-2003, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by jerseydevil
I'm just stating facts - you can take them anyway you want. You're the one that said we caused the French Revolution and that complete bullsh*t.

*sigh* if you re-read my post you'll find that I said no such thing

Coney · 03-13-2003, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by Dúnedain
From this point forward I refuse to acknowledge Coney. He is a waste of my time [FLAME DELETED] It is clear he is just trying to get crap started and has no clear sense of reality. I will not combat or argue anything he says, [FLAME DELETED] I welcome JD and anyone else with this common bond of ignoring a useless creature...

I do however welcome intelligent conversation and debate with anyone else

[FLAME BAIT DELETED]

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wahine · 03-13-2003, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Coney
Do you deny that the Statue of Liberty was given to the US after the French Revolution........which the US caused by pleading money from French Royalty to fund the colonial war????

*goes into motherly scorn mode*America didn't cause the French Revolution, America was the scape-goat. */steps out of motherly scorning Coney mode*

Dunedain

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...and has no clear sense of reality.

*psychodelic mode**dramatic* Reality is perception. Perception changes, therefor reality changes. So if by said 'reality' you mean reliably tangible objects and immutable events, then there is no such thing. */psychodelic mode*

I beg you not to ask me what I just said.

Dúnedain · 03-13-2003, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by wahine

Dunedain

*psychodelic mode**dramatic* Reality is perception. Perception changes, therefor reality changes. So if by said 'reality' you mean reliably tangible objects ans immutable objects, then there is no such thing. */psychodelic mode*

I beg you not to ask me what I just said.

LOL, huh? Now you are giving me grief like I gave you in the "Protestors" thread, if you haven't seen it yet, I went a little technical on you, lol

Coney · 03-13-2003, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by wahine
*goes into motherly scorn mode*America didn't cause the French Revolution, America was the scape-goat. */steps out of motherly scorning Coney mode*

ROFLMFAO!!!!!

Which history books did you read??

03-13-2003, 06:34 PM	#1103
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Judging from the name, I think that's been posted twice before. Once by me. Quite funny. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-13-2003, 08:11 PM	#1108
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	Speaking of the Statue of Libertarianism.... Will you be sending it back to France soon? __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

03-13-2003, 08:37 PM	#1111
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	The operative word here being 'given'. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-13-2003, 08:50 PM	#1113
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	ROFLMAO!!!! How quick you turn history from a pro to a con JD __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

03-13-2003, 09:38 PM	#1115
Dúnedain High King of Númenórë Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenórë <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	From this point forward I refuse to acknowledge Coney. He is a waste of my time [FLAME DELETED] It is clear he is just trying to get crap started and has no clear sense of reality. I will not combat or argue anything he says, . [FLAME DELETED]I welcome JD and anyone else with this common bond of ignoring a useless creature... I do however welcome intelligent conversation and debate with anyone else Last edited by Sister Golden Hair __________________ 'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen Last edited by Dúnedain : 03-13-2003 at 09:39 PM.

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