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On Took Talk I'd get pretty deep into this argument, but this is too big for me to follow along. So I'll just say this once and for all: Bush knows exactally what he is doing and he has a greater understanding of events in the world than many people know (save JD). Saddam is a lunatic. The Iraqi people are good people in general. America has been doing the right thing and I support Bush 100%. Bye.
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If Bush knows so much, where are the WMDs?
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What muchraking would that be? The Whitewater scandal, the bjs in the oval office? You obviously are blind to the muchraking "your people" do. Also - you don't even know me - so you don't even know who my "people" are or if I even have "people".
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During the war, two other agreements were made that were contradictory to the first one. One of them was that the Ottoman Empire would be divided between Britain, France, and Russia, and the other was that there would be a home for the Jews in Palestine. They backed up their agreement with the Arabs and confirmed it when they questioned it, upon hearing from the Turks that the British had made these opposing agreements. Quote:
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The Zionists, before a single Arab soldier had come against them, acted on their own to form their state, while the UN was still trying to find a suitable agreement between the two sides. They were reconsidering the partition plan, which had earlier been rejected by the Arabs. As the British ended their mandate and while their troops were withdrawing, the Zionists took matters into their own hands. They occupied numerous towns and 300,000 Palestinians fled, either because of terror methods or because they were terrified into going. And they had good reason to be terrified. At the town Deir Yasin in 1948, the Israeli soldiers murdered 254 people, including women and children, and they used the bodies to clog up a well. |
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On May 19, 1948, the State of Israel was established. The UN sent a mediator to Israel to help resolve the growing difficulties, but he was assassinated by Jewish terrorists.
THEN, the Arabs came to help the Palestinians. They came with 55,000 troops against Israel's 120,000 and were defeated. During the course of that war, 450,000 more Palestinians left or were forced out of their homes. 200,000 Jewish settlers were given immediate housing in "abandoned" Arab houses. 121 Arab villages were occupied by these settlers, but there were 429 villages that the Israelies couldn't immediately occupy. The UN was calling for the Palestinians to be given back their land and permitted back into their homes, and the Israelies had all these buildings open. But they had no place for the Palestinians; they bulldozed all of those villages to rubble. In 1954, more than one third of Israel's Jewish population lived on absentee property and nearly a third of the new immigrants (250,000 people) settled in urban areas abandoned by the Arabs. Between 1949 and the middle of 1954 there was an average of one thousand cases of infiltration per month along the various frontiers, of Palestinians attempting to cross the armistice lines in order to be reunited with their families or to return to their homes. Many of these people were simply put back on their side of the line when caught; others were killed or jailed. On October 21, 1948, the Israeli government imposed martial law. They limited the Palestinians in Israel, restricting their movement and abilities to act, making them second class citizens. Many were labeled "absentee" by the government as well, which enabled the government to expell them and place Jewish Settlers into their homes in their places. The Arab nations had good excuse to come after Israel (Though there were also other reasons), and these expulsions and destructions or theft of civilian property were not even nearly all war related. As I have demonstrated, after the first war with the Arab nations, nearly half of the expulsions had still taken place before there was any Arab troop movement against the Israelies. The recent destructions of Palestinian infrastructure in the West Bank was not targetting terrorism alone. The destructions of hundreds of Palestinian villages and settlements and the immigration of thousands upon thousands of Jewish Settlers into Palestinian homes (in defiance of UN regulations) wasn't self preservation. It was expansion. Just as we can see happening now. Last edited by Lief Erikson : 04-23-2003 at 08:02 PM. |
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