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I support abortus as it is legally arranged here in Belgium: up to a certain week in the pregnancy and not after. Later abortions are only allowed in view of the mother's health. So I wouldn't support a bill that covered late-term abortion even with anesthesia for the fetus. Most schools have in their science programme a feature on how the human body works and how the fetus develops in the course of the pregnancy. I think it is important that children learn this as well. [EDIT:And I realise I am getting off topic so that is all I will say in this matter here]
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I support abortus as it is legally arranged here in Belgium: up to a certain week in the pregnancy and not after. Later abortions are only allowed in view of the mother's health. So I wouldn't support a bill that covered late-term abortion even with anesthesia for the fetus. Most schools have in their science programme a feature on how the human body works and how the fetus develops in the course of the pregnancy. I think it is important that children learn this as well. [EDIT:And I realise I am getting off topic so that is all I will say in this matter here]
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Actually, there is quite a lot of archeological evidence showing that ancient cultures understood how the solar system works as far back as 5,000 years. The idea that these people couldn't have understood those things is an assumption that cannot be substantiated. A lot of things get lost when a civilization falls. Just look at what happened when Rome fell. The same could be said of the ancient Mesopotamians or the Maya for that matter. |
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I tried to move those two but without success, I may have to try something more drastic. You guys just don't listen to repeated requests to keep things on topic thread.
now the topics are merged under a common thread and encompass your divergence.
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Again, apologies. (See above posts) It is indeed hard since the previous posts were responses to things in ~THE OTHER THREAD~
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Nah, all this pussyfooting around is getting a bit too much. By engaging with the debate we legitimise the unwarranted levels of skepticism around evolution.
Let's be 100% clear: this is a political attack on science. I accept that most of the people here are honest and principled. However, this decency is being hijacked by a cabal of fundamentalist right-wingers to promote a political agenda. We see the same thing from abstinence education to climate science: a concerted effort is being made to undermine messages which don't fit this agenda. Time to wake up and smell the .. whatever it is you're supposed to smell when you wake up, the gammer's armpit in my case. |
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i'd say that dahmer's statements represent his "justification", just like the murders who say "god told me to do it"... he chose, or maybe even truly believed this justification, but it did not cause his actions... it was just how he framed what he was going to do anyway in his own mind we don't know why people do things... chemical imbalances that cause insanity? "bad" upbringing? who knows for sure? but we do know that there are good scientists, good christians, good atheists, good muslims, etc., so these can not "cause" moral choices in and of themselves... and, if you believe they do, you might as well throw that "free will" thing out the window
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