08-29-2005, 05:33 PM | #981 |
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if you don't mind rejoining the slime, then it's ok for you to murder and eat kids, then?
I see the grinning smilie, but do you agree that scientific info led to his behavior? ANd do you agree that in general, scientific info has a great deal to do with what we would call moral decisions? Again, case in point right here is IRex's example with partial-birth abortion - his decision on this issue is ENTIRELY based on what "science" comes up with. I know you like to kid around, but will you be serious for a moment and agree that scientific info has a great deal to do with people's moral choices?
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if you don't mind rejoining the slime, then it's ok for you to murder and eat kids, then?
I see the grinning smilie, but do you agree that scientific info led to his behavior? ANd do you agree that in general, scientific info has a great deal to do with what we would call moral decisions? Again, case in point right here is IRex's example with partial-birth abortion - his decision on this issue is ENTIRELY based on what "science" comes up with. I know you like to kid around, but will you be serious for a moment and agree that scientific info has a great deal to do with people's moral choices?
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Why do you keep dragging my name into this? Are you saying that jeffrey dahmer thought it was ok to eat people because of science? Are you saying most scientists support this concept? Why would you reference someone who is completely insane to knock science anyway? Is that really a good source to use? Can i use David Corech for christianity? Or Reverand Fred Phelps who says gays should all be killed? And neither of them are (nearly as) insane as Dahmer.
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Why do you keep dragging my name into this? Are you saying that jeffrey dahmer thought it was ok to eat people because of science? Are you saying most scientists support this concept? Why would you reference someone who is completely insane to knock science anyway? Is that really a good source to use? Can i use David Corech for christianity? Or Reverand Fred Phelps who says gays should all be killed? And neither of them are (nearly as) insane as Dahmer.
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08-29-2005, 05:54 PM | #985 |
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I'm not "dragging your name into this"! I'm referencing a statement you made, that's all!
I'm showing how people take scientific info and base decisions on it. Do you deny they do that? How can you, since you yourself do that? I"m not even saying it's wrong! I'm only pointing out that it happens! In fact, I think it's right, given a correct view of science. I'm NOT knocking science in any way, shape or form!
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I'm not "dragging your name into this"! I'm referencing a statement you made, that's all!
I'm showing how people take scientific info and base decisions on it. Do you deny they do that? How can you, since you yourself do that? I"m not even saying it's wrong! I'm only pointing out that it happens! In fact, I think it's right, given a correct view of science. I'm NOT knocking science in any way, shape or form!
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But in some borderline issues like abortion, I think it is better to include some scientific data instead of making far-going decisions on purely subjective data like fetus' feelings and thoughts.
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Here's an example from someone else on how scientific info (whether right or wrong) affects moral-type decisions:
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Here's an example from someone else on how scientific info (whether right or wrong) affects moral-type decisions:
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Your statement just enforces my point that we need to be careful about scientific info, because people use it to make decisions. And my example about the bill on fetal anasthesia (which does not require anesthesia to be given; it just requires the doctor to inform the woman, before the abortion, that medical studies show that the fetus can feel pain, and then give her the OPTION of administering anesthesia to the fetus) shows the importance of scientific info, and how a personal bias can affect the presentation of the data to others. If the majority of scientific studies concluded that, say, a 35-week-old fetus felt pain, would you support the passage of that bill if it covered giving this info to women who wanted to abort after the 35th week?
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Your statement just enforces my point that we need to be careful about scientific info, because people use it to make decisions. And my example about the bill on fetal anasthesia (which does not require anesthesia to be given; it just requires the doctor to inform the woman, before the abortion, that medical studies show that the fetus can feel pain, and then give her the OPTION of administering anesthesia to the fetus) shows the importance of scientific info, and how a personal bias can affect the presentation of the data to others. If the majority of scientific studies concluded that, say, a 35-week-old fetus felt pain, would you support the passage of that bill if it covered giving this info to women who wanted to abort after the 35th week?
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Here's the first proposed change - from page 2 of the doc linked to in my first post in this thread - they are adding "informed and" to the mission statement:
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Interesting (and I think right) point about the Constitution, too.
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Here's the first proposed change - from page 2 of the doc linked to in my first post in this thread - they are adding "informed and" to the mission statement:
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Interesting (and I think right) point about the Constitution, too.
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