Eurovision Song Contest - Page 5

Falagar · 05-21-2005, 05:12 PM

I've only seen the short summaries of the songs at the end, and from what I saw the Norwegian one was actually one of the better. Says it all, really.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 05-21-2005, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Falagar

I've only seen the short summary of the songs on the end, and from what I saw the Norwegian one was actually one of the better. Says it all, really.

i liked the norwegian, slightly

Nerdanel · 05-21-2005, 05:28 PM

it's quite interesting, i guess.. not the worst one, i absolutely agree with that.

but how come denmark is doing so well?? O.o

Last Child of Ungoliant · 05-21-2005, 05:31 PM

what i want to know is why moldova is doin so well? surely no one likes granny??

Nerdanel · 05-21-2005, 05:33 PM

go moldova!

*dances with granny*

Nerdanel · 05-21-2005, 06:05 PM

not greece.. *cries*

***Jonathan*** · 05-21-2005, 07:46 PM

Hehe, the Greek singer is actually a Swede

Sweden on the other hand did its worst contest in many years. I quite expected it.
I was hoping for Israel to win. They were in the lead for a short while but ended up 5th I think.

I heard Lebanon was going to be in the contest but had to be excluded since they refused to broadcast the Israelian song

. Too bad, I had wanted to see more new countries. Nice to see Moldova get as many points as they did, considering this was their first time.

***Earniel*** · 05-22-2005, 07:57 AM

And the Belgian singer was actually a Portuguese.

Didn't watch this year, must be a first. Never even heard the song we sent in in the first round.

I only watched the last two songs and the voting. Belgium should not-participate more, I seldom had such fun while listening to the points being given. So predictable at some points it was almost funny. I suppose it's easier to deal with the ugly thing Eurovision has become when your country isn't participating. And nobody seems to care about the actual singing anymore, only about the 'innovating' act. Pity.

And why is it that countries like France, Germany and the UK can always participate no matter how bad they score the previous year? (at least that's what the commentators said) And why not Belgium? I want either less corruption or more chance to participate in it!

Is this the first year Andorra and Monaco participated? I noticed them during the voting but I can't for my life remember them ever hearing a song from them before.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 05-22-2005, 08:27 AM

britain, france, spain and germany always take part because we pay for it!

but isn't it strange how the baltic countries vote for each other, the scandinavian countries vote for each other, the balkan countries vote for each other etc...

***Earniel*** · 05-22-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

britain, france, spain and germany always take part because we pay for it!

Well, I suppose that would explain it...

Radagast The Brown · 05-22-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan

I was hoping for Israel to win. They were in the lead for a short while but ended up 5th I think.

4th. I think she was very good, overall... (she was 2nd in our version of 'American Idol') Yeah, I almost thought we'd win too. I didn't really think Greece was good at all. I suppose most people did think so though... otherwise they wouldn't have won, because although the competition is not 'fair' - I mean, Portugal always give 12 points for Spain, Cyprus-Greece, allthe ex-USSR new countries vote for each other, ex-Yoguslavia, Scandinavia, etc... was rather annoying at points. But... fine. I think they should'nt have given the audience the rights to choose - noticed that until '99 we were really good in Eurovisions, since then we got from 12 to 20-something, only this year with a really good song - 4. Can't really be a coincidence.. but... *shrug* I suppose I really don't care.

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I heard Lebanon was going to be in the contest but had to be excluded since they refused to broadcast the Israelian song

. Too bad, I had wanted to see more new countries. Nice to see Moldova get as many points as they did, considering this was their first time.

But they're not a part of Europe, anyway... how can you call it 'Eurovision' this way?

Fine, we aren't either - but we're considered as part of it in sports too.. so...

***Jonathan*** · 05-22-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

but isn't it strange how the baltic countries vote for each other, the scandinavian countries vote for each other, the balkan countries vote for each other etc...

... and Ireland and the UK usually help one another out with some points. Hardly anyone gave the UK any points this year but Ireland gave you 8!!

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Originally Posted by Radagast The Brown

But they're not a part of Europe, anyway... how can you call it 'Eurovision' this way?

Fine, we aren't either - but we're considered as part of it in sports too.. so...

No you aren't European, so be quiet

Btw, Morocco participated once in the 80's.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 05-22-2005, 04:23 PM

so basically it is euro-and-surrounding-area-vision

Radagast The Brown · 05-22-2005, 05:40 PM

And there lies our problem - we don't have an area.

Unfortunately, the only country that's somehow close, Cyprus, seems to ignore us 'traditionally' as the paper puts it. Though, I suppose France always gives us 10 points. And I think we gave the French 5 ourselves - about 1/3 of their points overall.

It's all politics in other words. In a way.

***Fat middle*** · 05-23-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan

Btw, Morocco participated once in the 80's.

We'd like Morocco to participate again. We only received votes from France, Portugal and... Andorra (12 points!

). I'm sure that the votes from Andorra came from Spanish people on the borders calling to the Andorran phone number

We gave our 12 to Romania, and it's said that it was due to the large number of romanian inmigrants we have in Spain.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 05-23-2005, 02:10 PM

in future we can skip the so-called music, and go straight to the voting,
i am sure the results will be the same!

Janny · 05-23-2005, 03:01 PM

Yeah, especially as all the music's *ehem* anyway.

The important thing to come out of Britain's performance is that we know it was well and truly, you know, pants. We didn't get few enough points to be able to claim that Europe 'didn't get our music', but we didn't get enough to look anything but a complete joke. We can't blame supporting the war for it either, because of France and Germany. No excuses - we sucked miserably.

Go Malta!

Last Child of Ungoliant · 05-23-2005, 03:10 PM

the real thing is our main political allies in europe are greece and germany (harking back to the times of royalty, ie House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, and Prince Phillip of Greece), which isn't enough to give us any points, and greece are too busy giving points in the rest of the balkans to give us any, not that i am suggestin countries only vote politically

Janny · 05-25-2005, 07:36 AM

Also the fact that our song was terrible? :P

sun-star · 05-25-2005, 08:16 AM

The Ukranian song was interesting - I only heard it on the radio, I didn't see it, but the mixture of politics and music makes you look at Eurovision a bit differently.

05-21-2005, 05:12 PM	#81
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	I've only seen the short summaries of the songs at the end, and from what I saw the Norwegian one was actually one of the better. Says it all, really. __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle. Last edited by Falagar : 05-21-2005 at 05:13 PM.

05-21-2005, 05:28 PM	#83
Nerdanel Spammer of the Happy Thread Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 3,512	it's quite interesting, i guess.. not the worst one, i absolutely agree with that. but how come denmark is doing so well?? O.o __________________ "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " - C. Sagan My (photography) website My Flickr page

05-21-2005, 05:33 PM	#85
Nerdanel Spammer of the Happy Thread Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 3,512	go moldova! dances with granny __________________ "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " - C. Sagan My (photography) website My Flickr page

05-21-2005, 06:05 PM	#86
Nerdanel Spammer of the Happy Thread Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 3,512	not greece.. cries __________________ "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " - C. Sagan My (photography) website My Flickr page

05-21-2005, 07:46 PM	#87
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	Hehe, the Greek singer is actually a Swede Sweden on the other hand did its worst contest in many years. I quite expected it. I was hoping for Israel to win. They were in the lead for a short while but ended up 5th I think. I heard Lebanon was going to be in the contest but had to be excluded since they refused to broadcast the Israelian song . Too bad, I had wanted to see more new countries. Nice to see Moldova get as many points as they did, considering this was their first time. __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

05-21-2005, 05:31 PM	#84
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	what i want to know is why moldova is doin so well? surely no one likes granny??

05-22-2005, 07:57 AM	#88
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	And the Belgian singer was actually a Portuguese. Didn't watch this year, must be a first. Never even heard the song we sent in in the first round. I only watched the last two songs and the voting. Belgium should not-participate more, I seldom had such fun while listening to the points being given. So predictable at some points it was almost funny. I suppose it's easier to deal with the ugly thing Eurovision has become when your country isn't participating. And nobody seems to care about the actual singing anymore, only about the 'innovating' act. Pity. And why is it that countries like France, Germany and the UK can always participate no matter how bad they score the previous year? (at least that's what the commentators said) And why not Belgium? I want either less corruption or more chance to participate in it! Is this the first year Andorra and Monaco participated? I noticed them during the voting but I can't for my life remember them ever hearing a song from them before. __________________ We are not things.

05-22-2005, 08:27 AM	#89
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	britain, france, spain and germany always take part because we pay for it! but isn't it strange how the baltic countries vote for each other, the scandinavian countries vote for each other, the balkan countries vote for each other etc...

05-22-2005, 04:23 PM	#93
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	so basically it is euro-and-surrounding-area-vision

05-22-2005, 05:40 PM	#94
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	And there lies our problem - we don't have an area. Unfortunately, the only country that's somehow close, Cyprus, seems to ignore us 'traditionally' as the paper puts it. Though, I suppose France always gives us 10 points. And I think we gave the French 5 ourselves - about 1/3 of their points overall. It's all politics in other words. In a way. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-23-2005, 02:10 PM	#96
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	in future we can skip the so-called music, and go straight to the voting, i am sure the results will be the same!

05-23-2005, 03:01 PM	#97
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Yeah, especially as all the music's ehem anyway. The important thing to come out of Britain's performance is that we know it was well and truly, you know, pants. We didn't get few enough points to be able to claim that Europe 'didn't get our music', but we didn't get enough to look anything but a complete joke. We can't blame supporting the war for it either, because of France and Germany. No excuses - we sucked miserably. Go Malta! __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton.

05-23-2005, 03:10 PM	#98
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	the real thing is our main political allies in europe are greece and germany (harking back to the times of royalty, ie House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, and Prince Phillip of Greece), which isn't enough to give us any points, and greece are too busy giving points in the rest of the balkans to give us any, not that i am suggestin countries only vote politically

05-25-2005, 07:36 AM	#99
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Also the fact that our song was terrible? :P __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton.

05-25-2005, 08:16 AM	#100
sun-star Lady of Letters Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Either Oxford or Kent, England Posts: 2,476	The Ukranian song was interesting - I only heard it on the radio, I didn't see it, but the mixture of politics and music makes you look at Eurovision a bit differently. __________________ And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.

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