Of all the main "good" characters...who was your least favorite? - Page 5

Cirdan · 10-30-2002, 02:25 AM

That's why he is unlikeable. Sauron is an excellent example of a villian. Denethor is just weak-minded and flawed. His motives aren't evil but his influence is evil. At least you know where Sauron stands.

olsonm · 10-30-2002, 02:30 AM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants
Hmm. Deja vu. I don't think Denethor's character can really be classified as villainous.... Flawed maybe, but not villainous.

It can be seen as both. His attempted murder of Faramir is certainly more than simply flawed. His thoughts were of Gondor and his position in Gondor, alone. In the context of the story this can be seen as villainous (though not irredeemably evil) esp. since he carried out these thoughts to their bitter conclusion. A villain is, of course, always flawed but because Denethor died without repentance I see him as more than just flawed: a villain. (Though, certainly of a lesser degree than Sauron).

BeardofPants · 10-30-2002, 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by Cirdan
That's why he is unlikeable. Sauron is an excellent example of a villian. Denethor is just weak-minded and flawed. His motives aren't evil but his influence is evil. At least you know where Sauron stands.

Yeah, I'd go with that. It comes down to evil actions, not an evil character.

olsonm · 10-30-2002, 02:39 AM

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Originally posted by Cirdan
That's why he is unlikeable. Sauron is an excellent example of a villian. Denethor is just weak-minded and flawed. His motives aren't evil but his influence is evil. At least you know where Sauron stands.

I don't know if that makes much sense. You know where Denethor stands as much as Sauron. His motives are evil in the story (a desire for personal power that overrides reason). Rather, let us say, that Denethor is less likable because his motives are so petty; in the face of so much sacrifice by the heros of the tale. Denethor didn't have to do what he did, he knew better. His mind may have snapped at the end but that was mostly his fault.

Sicirus · 10-31-2002, 10:16 PM

When did Gandalf ever die????
Then come back????

I don't like Aragorn SOMETIMES. But I really don't like Denether. he was weak and to proud. He also supported war alittle, Just a liitle to much.

The Rip Designs Dude · 11-01-2002, 06:46 PM

yeah Gandalf never died, his physical form was just destroyed

Sicirus · 11-01-2002, 06:57 PM

Welcome to the moot TRDD.

Hope you have fun.

Radagast The Brown · 11-02-2002, 09:00 AM

Welcome TRDD.

I think mine would be Sam. I don't know why....

I didn't like him.

Erawyn · 11-02-2002, 12:56 PM

I think eveyone in the Fellowship was great, so i guess my least favourite character would have to be Arwen, but i'm not really sure why. I guess because she really just doesn't do anything but is still pretty important, i just didn't find her that interesting.

Lanelf · 11-02-2002, 10:26 PM

I know Gandalf didn't really die, but as TRDD said, his physical form was destroyed. To me that just about counts as dying.
I've just watched way too much science-fiction.

Lanelf.

Goldberry1 · 11-02-2002, 10:29 PM

My least favorite would have to be Gimli. I'm not really sure why but I just never really liked him that much.

Dussander · 11-03-2002, 12:00 AM

That gay Legolas bothers the hell out of me..

Also I think most of you are missing the point, the topic is "of all the MAIN GOOD characters, who is your least favorite? not Out of every character in the book who is your least favorite?

Just thought I'd clear that up.

durin's bane · 11-03-2002, 12:46 PM

Hey, Boromir is in all the books. Can't you see his spirit behind those trees from time to time? I thought Tolkien clearly stated "There he was. A pearly white figure. Solemn and sad, silent as a long-forgotten forest. "Hark!" called Legolas. "For it is the ghost of Boromir!"

Just kidding. I made that up.

**Nurvingiel** · 11-08-2002, 11:43 PM

It's tough to pick out of the fellowship, they're all so cool! (I am removing all trace of the movie from my mind... mwa mwaaa there's was a movie made? Okay, on with the post...)

Lets try the process elimination.

Legolas and Gimli are awsome, them plus Aragorn really make the Two Towers for me, which is my favourite Tolkein book.

Aragorn and Gandalf... too cool for words, especially Gandalf.

Merry and Pippin make my TTT experience complete, as they are great.

Sam is do Hobbit! Frodo is a puzzle. Back to him later.

Boromir saved them all on Caradhras.

Okay, puzzling Frodo is my least [b]favourite[b]. He's still cool though!

Erawyn · 11-09-2002, 12:19 AM

Right so if i had to pick my least favourite, i totally agree with Nurvingiel, it would have to be frodo, which i guess is pretty bad, and its not like i really don't like him, but hes the least interesting.

**Nurvingiel** · 11-09-2002, 03:09 PM

I don't dislike Frodo either. He's my least favourite only because I can't identify with him as well as I can with the other characters. I don't think he's boring at all though, I think he's one of the more developed characters in the Lord of the Rings.

Bard · 11-09-2002, 05:47 PM

Tough question, but I think I could give an answer to it.
My least favorite main character would have to be Sam, he`s just so bloody ignoring with his stupid thoughts about most important things. It`s like sending some kindda unscooled peasant to solve a problem which could effect the lives of millions. Though he makes progress at the end of the book, and he`s the best supporting friend one could immagine, so therefore he isn`t that bad afterall.

Sicirus · 11-09-2002, 11:56 PM

hey whats with putting down Tolkien's most unique charatcers. "hobbits" Well I guess I really never liked some of the hobbits. I don't like Gimli. only because he seeems, Well toooooo dwarfish for me. He likes to put out alot of pride when they first meet. He was a very good character though. He was described as kind and helpful.

Asfaloth · 11-10-2002, 05:45 AM

My least favourite Good character is definitely Gimli. But that's maybe because I don't like Dwarves. He never seems to have anything of interest to say, or any suggestions of what to do next.

Lanelf · 11-10-2002, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by Bard
My least favorite main character would have to be Sam, he`s just so bloody ignoring with his stupid thoughts about most important things. It`s like sending some kindda unscooled peasant to solve a problem which could effect the lives of millions.

Well, that's what it was, isn't it?

Lanelf.

10-30-2002, 02:25 AM	#81
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	That's why he is unlikeable. Sauron is an excellent example of a villian. Denethor is just weak-minded and flawed. His motives aren't evil but his influence is evil. At least you know where Sauron stands. __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

10-31-2002, 10:16 PM	#85
Sicirus Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Down the road on your left...No your other left. Posts: 1,825	When did Gandalf ever die???? Then come back???? I don't like Aragorn SOMETIMES. But I really don't like Denether. he was weak and to proud. He also supported war alittle, Just a liitle to much. __________________ "I know less then half of you half as well as I should like. And I like less then half of you half as well as you deserve." Bilbo Baggins

11-01-2002, 06:46 PM	#86
The Rip Designs Dude Sapling Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: unknown Posts: 5	yeah Gandalf never died, his physical form was just destroyed __________________ I'm a bad message board because I don't use HTML !

11-01-2002, 06:57 PM	#87
Sicirus Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Down the road on your left...No your other left. Posts: 1,825	Welcome to the moot TRDD. Hope you have fun. __________________ "I know less then half of you half as well as I should like. And I like less then half of you half as well as you deserve." Bilbo Baggins

11-02-2002, 09:00 AM	#88
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Welcome TRDD. I think mine would be Sam. I don't know why.... I didn't like him. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

11-02-2002, 12:56 PM	#89
Erawyn Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: america junior Posts: 320	I think eveyone in the Fellowship was great, so i guess my least favourite character would have to be Arwen, but i'm not really sure why. I guess because she really just doesn't do anything but is still pretty important, i just didn't find her that interesting. __________________ peace never hurt anyone "Be not so bigoted to any custom as to worship it at the expense of Truth." Johann Georg von Zimmermann

11-02-2002, 10:26 PM	#90
Lanelf Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Second Drawer Down Posts: 407	I know Gandalf didn't really die, but as TRDD said, his physical form was destroyed. To me that just about counts as dying. I've just watched way too much science-fiction. Lanelf. __________________ Hey, I'm back! resounding silence You didn't even notice I was gone, did you? Well, I'm back now anyway. Artemis Fowl must find Mulch Diggums! You'll never shut down the real Napster

11-02-2002, 10:29 PM	#91
Goldberry1 Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DC or Delaware, depending on the time of year Posts: 244	My least favorite would have to be Gimli. I'm not really sure why but I just never really liked him that much. __________________ Oh, your collegiate grief has left you dowdy in sweatshirts, absolute horror!

11-03-2002, 12:00 AM	#92
Dussander Enting Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 96	That gay Legolas bothers the hell out of me.. Also I think most of you are missing the point, the topic is "of all the MAIN GOOD characters, who is your least favorite? not Out of every character in the book who is your least favorite? Just thought I'd clear that up. __________________ The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like the difference between an eggs-and-ham breakfast, the chickens were 'involved', but the pig was 'commited'. - Anonymous In the end, we will not remember the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends - Martin Luther King Jr. Do or do not, there is no 'try'. - Yoda Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkeness, and the darkness comprehendeth it not - KJV. John 1:4-5

11-03-2002, 12:46 PM	#93
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	Hey, Boromir is in all the books. Can't you see his spirit behind those trees from time to time? I thought Tolkien clearly stated "There he was. A pearly white figure. Solemn and sad, silent as a long-forgotten forest. "Hark!" called Legolas. "For it is the ghost of Boromir!" Just kidding. I made that up. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

11-09-2002, 12:19 AM	#95
Erawyn Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: america junior Posts: 320	Right so if i had to pick my least favourite, i totally agree with Nurvingiel, it would have to be frodo, which i guess is pretty bad, and its not like i really don't like him, but hes the least interesting. __________________ peace never hurt anyone "Be not so bigoted to any custom as to worship it at the expense of Truth." Johann Georg von Zimmermann

11-09-2002, 05:47 PM	#97
Bard Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Goes, Netherlands Posts: 29	Tough question, but I think I could give an answer to it. My least favorite main character would have to be Sam, he`s just so bloody ignoring with his stupid thoughts about most important things. It`s like sending some kindda unscooled peasant to solve a problem which could effect the lives of millions. Though he makes progress at the end of the book, and he`s the best supporting friend one could immagine, so therefore he isn`t that bad afterall.

11-09-2002, 11:56 PM	#98
Sicirus Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Down the road on your left...No your other left. Posts: 1,825	hey whats with putting down Tolkien's most unique charatcers. "hobbits" Well I guess I really never liked some of the hobbits. I don't like Gimli. only because he seeems, Well toooooo dwarfish for me. He likes to put out alot of pride when they first meet. He was a very good character though. He was described as kind and helpful. __________________ "I know less then half of you half as well as I should like. And I like less then half of you half as well as you deserve." Bilbo Baggins

11-10-2002, 05:45 AM	#99
Asfaloth Sapling Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13	My least favourite Good character is definitely Gimli. But that's maybe because I don't like Dwarves. He never seems to have anything of interest to say, or any suggestions of what to do next.

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