hunting - Page 5

Lief Erikson · 08-26-2005, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Incidentally, the U.S. plans on bringing African Lions and other big Cats over to the wild midwest.

I already created a thread on this, here http://www.entmoot.com/showthread.php?t=12449.

Respond to the following question there, hectorberlioz:

It's actually been agreed upon? It's certain? What's your source for this piece of news?

Sidenote: I wish we could get the buffalo herds swarming our plains again, along with the African lions

.

Falagar · 08-27-2005, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spock

...please not another apologist.....

Apologist? Not sure what you mean by that. Just stated fact.

The last sane person · 08-31-2005, 03:37 PM

Yep, Game ranches. I hate them. Cause no matter how big the ranch, the creature is still trapped, and all you have to do is set out in one direction to a fence and you will run into a bunch of game. And yes, my uncle's college buddy has one of these ranches and they do indeed bring over old lions cheetas and leopards. Really pricey to get a shot at them though. 50k for an old male lion i believe.

But its absolutely stupid, its not even hunting. you are required to bring a very high powered rifle and scope, sit in a clearing while carcasses and food are brought out and put intfront of you and the poor creature comes to eat.....That boils my arse.

Lotesse · 08-31-2005, 03:39 PM

That's exactly the epitome of what disgusts me about the concept of "modern hunting." Exactly that.

How pathetic, chickens88t and ethically backward can a human being get? Boils my arse, too. Unbelieveable.

The last sane person · 08-31-2005, 03:43 PM

Now...dont get me wrong, game ranches are rare...and most of the hunters here indeed do hunt in the wild....those places are freaking expensive, even if you arent shooting exotics-as they call em- so most hunters cant afford it.

Even so, I dont like gun hunting....I like shooting guns...but not hunting with them.

Lotesse · 08-31-2005, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The last sane person

Even so, I dont like gun hunting....I like shooting guns...but not hunting with them.

Me, as well. LOVE shooting guns, HATE needless hunting.

The last sane person · 08-31-2005, 03:49 PM

I'm putting up my bow now that I live in Hawaii, but I think I will go back for winter...can take only so much sunnyness. All of my family have been bow hunters...so...we view hunting perhaps a little differently and with more respect to what we are hunting. I used to roam around for weeks hunting because there were thousands of acres that I could hunt in....I'm missing it already.

Lotesse · 08-31-2005, 03:50 PM

Do you eat the animals you hunt?

The last sane person · 09-01-2005, 05:17 PM

Yep....like i said at the beginning, where i lived, there wasnt a grocery store for around 80 miles. We used (still do) every part of the deer we kill as well, so no waste.

Lotesse · 09-01-2005, 05:20 PM

Then, I see nothing at all wrong with how you hunt. It's perfectly honourable.

The last sane person · 09-01-2005, 05:34 PM

Well happy days! I like to think its honourable myself...though some people called me a hick never the less. Not on the moot...when ever I struck up a convo with some city people and PETA people (didnt know what they were at the beginning). That and my West Virginian accent didn't do much for my case.

hectorberlioz · 09-01-2005, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lief Erikson

I already created a thread on this, here http://www.entmoot.com/showthread.php?t=12449.

Respond to the following question there, hectorberlioz:

It's actually been agreed upon? It's certain? What's your source for this piece of news?

Sidenote: I wish we could get the buffalo herds swarming our plains again, along with the African lions

.

My dad was telling me about it

, and I heard something on NPR about it.

Lions and buffalo! wow, thats a basis for a movie right there!

The last sane person · 09-01-2005, 09:45 PM

...reminds me of the movie Second Hand Lions. My uncle had "pet" cougar. I have a "pet" wolf back home who I really miss. And as for the buffalo...they are back up in decent numbers. Perhaps not into the millions as they were-think of waiting for a herd like that to walk across a train track.

Up on a rez with a bunch of my friends, we got to pat a few. Really humbles you to see how huge they are. I met one named potlicker, big ole bull who apperantly loves to knock over cooking pots and eat the contents clean.

Now, as for hunting, what do y'all think of native american whale hunting? When I was in seattle one year, greenpeace made such a huge hooplah about it. I remember one protester buzzed the longboats on a ski doo.

Lotesse · 09-01-2005, 09:51 PM

It's not the native americans I have a problem with, it's those infernal Japanese fishermen, and whomever else is responsible for wanton rare-animal slaughter - oil riggers come to mind, when they spill their disgusting oil all over the place, killing everything. And seine fishermen, catching absolutely everything that moves in the water and throwing away all the animals they don't want just to catch a few rare fish that they DO want. Human beings can be so freakin' LOW>

The last sane person · 09-01-2005, 09:58 PM

....didnt seem to share your opionion about it in seattle. I was all for the tribes to catch and eat ONE whale. I got booed down when I went to talk about it though...

Lotesse · 09-01-2005, 10:03 PM

The way I see it, what the f*** else are the tribes supposed to feed themselves with? Look where they live, where they've lived for ages and ages. That is their homeland, and they know how to treat their own homeland and the animals that come with it.

Billy Bones · 09-07-2005, 11:59 AM

I do not hunt just for the fun of it. My motto is never shoot wot you can't eat
unless of courseif you don't like eating it then just leave it

Lotesse · 09-07-2005, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Bones

unless of course if you don't like eating it then just leave it

Ahh, Billy Bones, Billy Bones: Sometimes methinks you're just tryna yank my chain!

Silly goose...

The last sane person · 09-07-2005, 09:08 PM

If you dont like to eat it...then why waste ammo on it? Course he is just trying to yank yer chain. Lotesse, at first I thought you scared poor billy away with that blustery first post! Good to see you around Bones.

Rconsole · 09-25-2005, 12:14 AM

I went out turkey hunting once just for fun (didn't get anything) and I loved it, I'd like to get into Bow Hunting eventually

08-31-2005, 03:37 PM	#83
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	Yep, Game ranches. I hate them. Cause no matter how big the ranch, the creature is still trapped, and all you have to do is set out in one direction to a fence and you will run into a bunch of game. And yes, my uncle's college buddy has one of these ranches and they do indeed bring over old lions cheetas and leopards. Really pricey to get a shot at them though. 50k for an old male lion i believe. But its absolutely stupid, its not even hunting. you are required to bring a very high powered rifle and scope, sit in a clearing while carcasses and food are brought out and put intfront of you and the poor creature comes to eat.....That boils my arse. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

08-31-2005, 03:39 PM	#84
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	That's exactly the epitome of what disgusts me about the concept of "modern hunting." Exactly that. How pathetic, chickens88t and ethically backward can a human being get? Boils my arse, too. Unbelieveable. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

08-31-2005, 03:43 PM	#85
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	Now...dont get me wrong, game ranches are rare...and most of the hunters here indeed do hunt in the wild....those places are freaking expensive, even if you arent shooting exotics-as they call em- so most hunters cant afford it. Even so, I dont like gun hunting....I like shooting guns...but not hunting with them. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

08-31-2005, 03:49 PM	#87
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	I'm putting up my bow now that I live in Hawaii, but I think I will go back for winter...can take only so much sunnyness. All of my family have been bow hunters...so...we view hunting perhaps a little differently and with more respect to what we are hunting. I used to roam around for weeks hunting because there were thousands of acres that I could hunt in....I'm missing it already. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

08-31-2005, 03:50 PM	#88
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Do you eat the animals you hunt? __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

09-01-2005, 05:17 PM	#89
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	Yep....like i said at the beginning, where i lived, there wasnt a grocery store for around 80 miles. We used (still do) every part of the deer we kill as well, so no waste. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

09-01-2005, 05:20 PM	#90
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Then, I see nothing at all wrong with how you hunt. It's perfectly honourable. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

09-01-2005, 05:34 PM	#91
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	Well happy days! I like to think its honourable myself...though some people called me a hick never the less. Not on the moot...when ever I struck up a convo with some city people and PETA people (didnt know what they were at the beginning). That and my West Virginian accent didn't do much for my case. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

09-01-2005, 09:45 PM	#93
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	...reminds me of the movie Second Hand Lions. My uncle had "pet" cougar. I have a "pet" wolf back home who I really miss. And as for the buffalo...they are back up in decent numbers. Perhaps not into the millions as they were-think of waiting for a herd like that to walk across a train track. Up on a rez with a bunch of my friends, we got to pat a few. Really humbles you to see how huge they are. I met one named potlicker, big ole bull who apperantly loves to knock over cooking pots and eat the contents clean. Now, as for hunting, what do y'all think of native american whale hunting? When I was in seattle one year, greenpeace made such a huge hooplah about it. I remember one protester buzzed the longboats on a ski doo. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

09-01-2005, 09:51 PM	#94
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	It's not the native americans I have a problem with, it's those infernal Japanese fishermen, and whomever else is responsible for wanton rare-animal slaughter - oil riggers come to mind, when they spill their disgusting oil all over the place, killing everything. And seine fishermen, catching absolutely everything that moves in the water and throwing away all the animals they don't want just to catch a few rare fish that they DO want. Human beings can be so freakin' LOW> __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

09-01-2005, 09:58 PM	#95
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	....didnt seem to share your opionion about it in seattle. I was all for the tribes to catch and eat ONE whale. I got booed down when I went to talk about it though... __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

09-01-2005, 10:03 PM	#96
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	The way I see it, what the f* else are the tribes supposed to feed themselves with? Look where they live, where they've lived for ages and ages. That is their homeland, and they know how to treat their own homeland and the animals that come with it. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality.** ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

09-07-2005, 11:59 AM	#97
Billy Bones Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Skull rock Posts: 24	my explanation I do not hunt just for the fun of it. My motto is never shoot wot you can't eat unless of courseif you don't like eating it then just leave it __________________ dont do it behind the garden gate cus love is blind but the neighbour aint

09-07-2005, 09:08 PM	#99
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	If you dont like to eat it...then why waste ammo on it? Course he is just trying to yank yer chain. Lotesse, at first I thought you scared poor billy away with that blustery first post! Good to see you around Bones. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

09-25-2005, 12:14 AM	#100
Rconsole Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 359	I went out turkey hunting once just for fun (didn't get anything) and I loved it, I'd like to get into Bow Hunting eventually

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