Filibusters! - Page 5

***Rían*** · 04-28-2005, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spock

Under Clinton and Puff Daddy, the Dems kept the judges from getting their vote...via parlimentary dodges which the Reps. couldn't overcome.

I'm with the Count - I don't quite understand this, either, Spock...

Spock · 04-28-2005, 08:37 PM

If the giving of informaion is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you."......Gandalf to Pippin

Count Comfect · 04-28-2005, 11:57 PM

Gandalf was an irascible old man. Of COURSE information is the cure of curiousity.

***Rían*** · 04-29-2005, 12:07 AM

And as I pointed out the last time you said that, Spock, Gandy's next step is to give the information requested!

Insidious Rex · 05-24-2005, 10:26 PM

Gosh Im shocked this thread has been allowed to slip quietly into the deep after Tuesday's turn of events.

Those damn centrists eh? Cant turn the House into a rubber stamp machine for Bush after all I guess.

Count Comfect · 05-25-2005, 12:02 PM

It is sort of odd. I support the deal, if only because it doesn't eliminate the filibuster (and from a partisan POV, as a Democrat, it's much more important to be able to filibuster a SCOTUS nomination). But it's sort of odd that it explicitly only applies to 3 of the 7 nominees...

Insidious Rex · 05-25-2005, 01:52 PM

well thats what happens when you make sausage...

But the fundies are furious about this. they consider it a total cave in. I wonder how that will effect Frist's 2008 hopes. Amazing all of this boils down to abortion via the supreme court. Is there really even a chance of anything being changed on Roe v Wade any time soon? Currently its 6-3 in favor of keeping it Id say. So the extremists would need to have at least 2 new radicals added and replacing those in favor of it. Dont see that happening really.

***Rían*** · 05-25-2005, 04:32 PM

odd little deal... makes me realize that there's more deal-making going on than we realize...

Spock · 05-26-2005, 12:00 PM

"the talking heads" last night said it was a PR victory for the Dems and a lost cause for the Reps. as they only are getting three. Personally, I'm tired.

Count Comfect · 07-02-2005, 05:42 PM

OK, so

Quote:

O'Connor Resigns from Supreme Court
O'Connor resigns from Supreme Court

By SHAWN MCCARTHY

Saturday, July 2, 2005 Updated at 2:37 AM EDT

From Saturday's Globe and Mail

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, a critical swing vote on hot-button social issues, unexpectedly resigned from the Supreme Court of the United States yesterday, a decision expected to spark a titanic battle between warring conservatives and liberals over her successor.

How do people feel about filibustering THAT? I personally think it's perfectly legitimate (see: Abe Fortas, 1968), but I'd be shocked to have that be unanimous.

***Rían*** · 07-02-2005, 08:03 PM

Whew! That's gonna be a battle *sigh*

Spock · 07-03-2005, 11:23 AM

Yeah, it probably will be but I'd have hoped we'd passed that stage. Unfortunately there are numerous forces that continue to work towards the demise of the nation as it was founded.

04-28-2005, 11:57 PM	#83
Count Comfect Word Santa Claus Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,922	Gandalf was an irascible old man. Of COURSE information is the cure of curiousity. __________________ Sufficient to have stood, yet free to fall.

04-29-2005, 12:07 AM	#84
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	And as I pointed out the last time you said that, Spock, Gandy's next step is to give the information requested! __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!

05-24-2005, 10:26 PM	#85
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Gosh Im shocked this thread has been allowed to slip quietly into the deep after Tuesday's turn of events. Those damn centrists eh? Cant turn the House into a rubber stamp machine for Bush after all I guess. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

05-25-2005, 12:02 PM	#86
Count Comfect Word Santa Claus Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,922	It is sort of odd. I support the deal, if only because it doesn't eliminate the filibuster (and from a partisan POV, as a Democrat, it's much more important to be able to filibuster a SCOTUS nomination). But it's sort of odd that it explicitly only applies to 3 of the 7 nominees... __________________ Sufficient to have stood, yet free to fall.

05-25-2005, 01:52 PM	#87
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	well thats what happens when you make sausage... But the fundies are furious about this. they consider it a total cave in. I wonder how that will effect Frist's 2008 hopes. Amazing all of this boils down to abortion via the supreme court. Is there really even a chance of anything being changed on Roe v Wade any time soon? Currently its 6-3 in favor of keeping it Id say. So the extremists would need to have at least 2 new radicals added and replacing those in favor of it. Dont see that happening really. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

04-28-2005, 08:37 PM	#82
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	If the giving of informaion is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you."......Gandalf to Pippin

05-25-2005, 04:32 PM	#88
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	odd little deal... makes me realize that there's more deal-making going on than we realize... __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!

05-26-2005, 12:00 PM	#89
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	"the talking heads" last night said it was a PR victory for the Dems and a lost cause for the Reps. as they only are getting three. Personally, I'm tired. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

07-02-2005, 08:03 PM	#91
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Whew! That's gonna be a battle sigh __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!

07-03-2005, 11:23 AM	#92
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Yeah, it probably will be but I'd have hoped we'd passed that stage. Unfortunately there are numerous forces that continue to work towards the demise of the nation as it was founded. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."