09-14-2006, 08:25 PM | #81 |
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oh come on! give credit where credit is due, man!
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09-14-2006, 08:39 PM | #82 |
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What about....Cashmere WindGarments....
Achilles was a Punk, I agree. The dirtbag....oops! I called Homer a name!
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09-14-2006, 08:45 PM | #83 |
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why do you call Achilles a punk? he was a great warrior...a bit of a temper, given, but still...
even the trojan/romans speak of him with respect, unlike the contempt and hatred they spoke with for odysseus...
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09-14-2006, 08:52 PM | #84 |
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Achilles was:
Dishonorable A Jerk An Adulterer A double-crosser and had bad heels. Sheesh though, I would never have worn heels into battle...
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well then, all of the Gods and Goddesses were punks, as were all of the heroes. everyone. there. ha!
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oh...that makes it alright... nah, i like Achilles...
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And not Hector ...?....
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oh no, by all means, i love hector. i just wish they weren't against each other....every time i read the story, i always think he's gonna get away...hope, at least.
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Did you know that the biggest percent of people who hate Achilles; hate him because he killed Hector? ...Shows you how inspiring Hector is...
"Not for nothing did Berlioz' father name him Hector..." ~Harold C Schonberg
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hm....well....it was fate, eh? in the mythology, people didn't have a choice, y'know? not his fault. so there!
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You know, I haven't even read the Iliad yet...
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really? the whole thing centers around the rage of Achilles...and, of course, the results...aka, death of hector...y'know...little things...
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Little! ...it's the little things that make up the big things, as it were...
Galadriel: "Even the smallest of creatures-" Frodo: Yeah, yeah...you told me already...
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hm....i think it's the thing that makes up the thing...if the good Lord intended us the see the smaller things, He woulda made 'em bigger...and visible...
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He did...you just have to have a monocle or two handy...
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hm...yeah, a joke it was, and a joke it remains. anyway...i'm gonna head out soon...
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But yeah, Achilles had way, way too much of a temper. Also, for being such an awesome hero, when he gets into an altercation with Agammemnon, what does he do? He goes and sulks in his tent. At least Patroclus understands me!
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A wimp orator? He doesn't do much in the way of speeches, Generalissimo.
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