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12-31-2004, 01:00 AM | #81 |
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Radagast the Brown,
I understood the reference to "establish" the Temple in the Davidic sense to mean he had the materials gathered and the plans "established". As I recall the story from memory, King David greatly desired to build the Temple but was not allowed to do so "because thou art a bloody man" and G-d would not allow it. Am I misunderstanding? or do you mean that since Solomon built and consecrated it he established it?
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12-31-2004, 08:23 AM | #82 | |
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01-02-2005, 07:02 PM | #83 | |
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NOTE - I have no idea what this has to do with the topic at hand. Brownjenkins - I don't only look at things that support my POV of - contrary to your opinion. I look at that facts of the world as they exist and as they existed. You however seem to view the world as this utopian society where if everyone just got along - things would be perfect. Do you think it would have made sense for us to let Iran - with the help of the Soviet Union - defeat Iraq and take over the Middle East? That was a fact of the times - whether you like it or not. And I know about the livbing conditions of the Palestinians - isn't it amazing though the BILLIONS that Arafat had tucked away in bank accounts and investments? Hell there was a big thing because it waas discovered two weeks ago - that he owned severl bowling alleys in NYC. What was ironic about that one was that the one advertised to Jews and encouraged them to have Bar and Bat Mitzvahs there. The manager said he had no idea because the ownership was done through a fund. If he had all these Billions, like Bin Ladin has - then why the hell don't they spent it on their "people"? WHy? Becuase they don't want peace - they don't care about peace, they just want to continue the killing and continue the palstinian suffering so they have an excuse to continue it.
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01-03-2005, 01:19 PM | #85 |
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Hemel, IT was deliberate. I'll see if I can track a quotation for your interest.
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we made many mistakes during the cold war compromising our better judgement due to fear of communism... a fear which proved to be overblown in retrospect... i'm not saying the bad choices we made were not for what we believed to be good reasons... but that does not make them good reasons is it utopian to actually insist that if the united states is going to claim that they are for spreading democracy around the world that they actually institute policies that support this, as opposed to ones that are radically opposed to it? my POV is not utopian at all... i realize that the US acts the way every other country in the world does... we do what we perceive to be in our own self interest... i'd like to see us 1) admit this, and then 2) try to act more in our long-term self interest, and less in the reactionary short-term and most of all to realize that the true long-term is about the world, not just the US Quote:
there are many ways to help the people directly if we wanted to... and you know that as well as i do
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I know this from study of settlement in Australia, but I believe it also applied in North America (we Brits only settled Australia because we couldn't transport our criminals to America any more) Discussion of colonialism is very relevant, IMO, to this thread, since the vast majority of Muslim migration into Europe has been as a result of our colonisation of their countries. I saw a TV programme recently which commented on how, before the British colonised India, it was one of the richest societies in the world. When they left in 1948 it was effectively wrecked, with vast poverty, hunger and civil war. Quote:
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01-05-2005, 09:57 AM | #91 |
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just to chime in,
THAT SARCASM IS MAKIN' ME THIRSTY I admire the intelect of our american bretheren, after all. anyone??
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I like lurking in this thread... but I think I might stop now... *is disturbed*
Pssstttt.... Fenir... this thread isn't for your personal convenience to flame-bait whosoever you choose... Erm... yes. I like reading JD's, Brownie's, and Gaffer's posts, and hope they aren't put off posting in here. Something makes me doubt that though.
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