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Janny · 05-23-2004, 06:46 AM

Ah Khamul, my dear fellow. How many runs does one get when one hits a four? Or when one runs a single? I'm afraid hitting a six follows on the same wonderfully logical lines.

Andúril · 05-23-2004, 11:41 AM

Unless it's a no ball delivery, in which case an extra run is added to the shot played. I've seen plenty of seven-run deliveries.

Janny · 05-23-2004, 02:25 PM

And the amazing times when the ball hits the helmet that the wickie left on the floor behind him, and the batters get 5 penalty runs... the excitement! Now tell me it's more boring than golf!

1st test nicely balanced at close of play btw... 270 ish in one day by England required to win, no wickets down...

***Khamûl*** · 05-23-2004, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by Janny
Ah Khamul, my dear fellow. How many runs does one get when one hits a four? Or when one runs a single? I'm afraid hitting a six follows on the same wonderfully logical lines.

Ok, I don't feel too stupid because I've never heard of a four or a single. The only single I'm familiar with is in baseball, and you don't get any runs for that (unless you get an RBI).

Does it have to go a certain way to go out of bounds and be counted as six? The reason I ask is because in baseball it has to go in front of the hitter to be counted. If it goes back, it doesn't count.

The Gaffer · 05-24-2004, 03:52 AM

If you hit the ball over the boundary without bouncing then you get six; if it does hit the ground first, you get four.

It's been a good game, with the initiative constantly ebbing and flowing. The England bowlers did a really good job yesterday afternoon.

On day two they were predicting that the pitch might start deteriorating towards the end and it would be a difficult pitch to bat last on. Let's see if the England batsmen can cope...

[EDIT: reads back through the thread]

Yes, I'd heard Strauss was from SA originally. Nothing wrong with imported talent; I'm old enough to remember Mike Denness (Scottish captain of England!), Tony Greig (also captain, but I can't remember whether he was Aussie or SA) and Allan Lamb (another SA).

IIRC, Ireland are about on a par with Scotland at cricket, though I don't remember them getting into the World Cup in recent years. I only support England at cricket because they so obviously need it.

Any Aussies play indoor cricket here? Now why hasn't that caught on in the UK (where we have the ideal weather for it)?

Janny · 05-24-2004, 06:43 AM

Geriant Jones woul also be an import then I suppose! He's the Kent wickie so I've seen him play once or twice, I was very impressed, he seemed to pull off apparently impossible catches.

Sorry Khamul, I'd forgotten about the nature of baseball and how different it is from cricket...

Update: England 44 - 2 Target 282. We are screwed.

sun-star · 05-24-2004, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Janny
Update: England 44 - 2 Target 282. We are screwed.

Spoke too soon, didn't ya?

Even I know that. Though now I'm not sure...

The Gaffer · 05-24-2004, 12:47 PM

Defo. 282 for 3; Hussain got a century. They made it with 15 minutes to spare.

Very close game. NZ will feel a bit unlucky (there were lots of streaky shots in that innings and a few dodgy decisions in the game which went England's way).

Who is going to get dropped to make way for Vaughan coming back in the next game? My choice would be Butcher, though it wouldn't surprise me if the selectors dropped Strauss

Janny · 05-24-2004, 02:56 PM

Okay, firstly... erm... at the time it looked it... I don't have much faith in English batting... or bowling for that matter, but still, I don't see you ever predicting anything Sunny (Except after it's happened... good job on that front tho!

)
I would drop Hussein, just a bit of bitterness about that run out... how noble of Strauss! Anyway, I think they may drop Giles maybe... just for the extra batsman.

BTW, did you see that statistic of batsmen scoring centuries on debut... that poor guy got 120 something and 170 ish and got dropped!

Now where's BoP?

The Gaffer · 05-24-2004, 03:03 PM

It would be hard to drop Nasser after his 100, though running out the guy who's competing for his place in the team is a bit naughty

Draken · 05-24-2004, 04:56 PM

Cracking game. Man of the Match for me was the groundsman! A wicket that did something for both spin and seam, but with runs in it too. And in May!

sun-star · 05-25-2004, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Janny
I don't see you ever predicting anything Sunny (Except after it's happened... good job on that front tho! )

Quiet, you!

Or I'll borrow some duct tape off your Teacup Cafe friends

Dwarven Sen · 05-28-2004, 09:45 AM

It's always nice when England get together in perfect weather and soundly thrash the living daylights out of a team. Puts a glow in the heart, and it got me out of revising for the exam i just failed. Yay!!... uh no thats not right....

Oh well. I think we played well and I think that it was a good all round game so Yay for the others to. They'll probably beat us next time anyway. Our luck is never that good.

BelegS · 05-29-2004, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by Janny
Well hello and welcome! Nice to meet you BelegS. Yes, Chris Cairnes got the record for the most sixes in test cricket in a career with 86 I think he got up to. 84 by Viv Richards was the previous best.

Khamul, I love the notion that cricket would be exotic channels.

I hope you're still Gaffer! I didn't scare you off with my left baiting?

Hey! sorry didn't read this before. Erm, do you mean 186 or 86?

Sad to see Nasser Hussain going. He was a tough fellow and IMO loads better then what Botham thinks of him. [and he was a great captain too, the best England have got in the recent years IMO]

LOL, English luck has been pretty good this season...

Janny · 05-29-2004, 05:11 PM

Um.. I thought I meant 86, I'm not so sure now. I think it was 86.
Yes, there's been a bit of a joke in the UK because the England captain choose to resign gracfully, something which many people think the PM should do now. There is a cartoon of the chancellor's house (the man who would succeed the Tony Blair) with a large banner outside reading:
'Nasser Hussein. Good retirement decision'.

Draken · 06-08-2004, 06:27 PM

Two series wins on the bounce for England...what IS happening? Harmison ranked #2 in the world and Geraint Jones showing he's a bona fide batting wicket keeper...all we need now is a decent spinner!

The Gaffer · 06-09-2004, 03:53 AM

Yeah, it's weird. Can't believe that Harmison is number 2 in the world; he seems far too inconsistent and (no disrespect to NZ or WI) he hasn't really produced the goods against one of the top batting teams (Aus, India, SA)

Draken · 06-17-2004, 04:29 AM

Derbyshire beat New Zealand! The glory days of winning the Nat West Trophy on the last ball may be long gone, but I'll take whatever wins we can get these days.

Draken · 07-27-2004, 07:32 AM

And it's another Test win for England! But to be honest the Windies seem in disarray these days.

The Gaffer · 07-27-2004, 10:30 AM

England probably deserved it, but Windies were unlucky with a couple of key umpiring decisions.

Good batting display, though. I managed to catch Freddie in full flight, so that was a treat. Finally they dropped Butcher; pity it had to take an injury to make the selectors see sense.

05-23-2004, 06:46 AM	#81
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Ah Khamul, my dear fellow. How many runs does one get when one hits a four? Or when one runs a single? I'm afraid hitting a six follows on the same wonderfully logical lines. __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton.

05-23-2004, 02:25 PM	#83
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	And the amazing times when the ball hits the helmet that the wickie left on the floor behind him, and the batters get 5 penalty runs... the excitement! Now tell me it's more boring than golf! 1st test nicely balanced at close of play btw... 270 ish in one day by England required to win, no wickets down... __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton.

05-24-2004, 03:52 AM	#85
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	If you hit the ball over the boundary without bouncing then you get six; if it does hit the ground first, you get four. It's been a good game, with the initiative constantly ebbing and flowing. The England bowlers did a really good job yesterday afternoon. On day two they were predicting that the pitch might start deteriorating towards the end and it would be a difficult pitch to bat last on. Let's see if the England batsmen can cope... [EDIT: reads back through the thread] Yes, I'd heard Strauss was from SA originally. Nothing wrong with imported talent; I'm old enough to remember Mike Denness (Scottish captain of England!), Tony Greig (also captain, but I can't remember whether he was Aussie or SA) and Allan Lamb (another SA). IIRC, Ireland are about on a par with Scotland at cricket, though I don't remember them getting into the World Cup in recent years. I only support England at cricket because they so obviously need it. Any Aussies play indoor cricket here? Now why hasn't that caught on in the UK (where we have the ideal weather for it)? Last edited by The Gaffer : 05-24-2004 at 04:22 AM.

05-24-2004, 06:43 AM	#86
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Geriant Jones woul also be an import then I suppose! He's the Kent wickie so I've seen him play once or twice, I was very impressed, he seemed to pull off apparently impossible catches. Sorry Khamul, I'd forgotten about the nature of baseball and how different it is from cricket... Update: England 44 - 2 Target 282. We are screwed. __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton.

05-24-2004, 02:56 PM	#89
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Okay, firstly... erm... at the time it looked it... I don't have much faith in English batting... or bowling for that matter, but still, I don't see you ever predicting anything Sunny (Except after it's happened... good job on that front tho! ) I would drop Hussein, just a bit of bitterness about that run out... how noble of Strauss! Anyway, I think they may drop Giles maybe... just for the extra batsman. BTW, did you see that statistic of batsmen scoring centuries on debut... that poor guy got 120 something and 170 ish and got dropped! Now where's BoP? __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton.

05-23-2004, 11:41 AM	#82
Andúril The Original Corruptor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,881	Unless it's a no ball delivery, in which case an extra run is added to the shot played. I've seen plenty of seven-run deliveries.

05-24-2004, 12:47 PM	#88
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Defo. 282 for 3; Hussain got a century. They made it with 15 minutes to spare. Very close game. NZ will feel a bit unlucky (there were lots of streaky shots in that innings and a few dodgy decisions in the game which went England's way). Who is going to get dropped to make way for Vaughan coming back in the next game? My choice would be Butcher, though it wouldn't surprise me if the selectors dropped Strauss

05-24-2004, 03:03 PM	#90
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	It would be hard to drop Nasser after his 100, though running out the guy who's competing for his place in the team is a bit naughty

05-24-2004, 04:56 PM	#91
Draken Elf Lord Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, England Posts: 694	Cracking game. Man of the Match for me was the groundsman! A wicket that did something for both spin and seam, but with runs in it too. And in May! __________________ I'm beset by self-doubt ....or am I?

05-28-2004, 09:45 AM	#93
Dwarven Sen Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Edinburgh University Library Posts: 410	It's always nice when England get together in perfect weather and soundly thrash the living daylights out of a team. Puts a glow in the heart, and it got me out of revising for the exam i just failed. Yay!!... uh no thats not right.... Oh well. I think we played well and I think that it was a good all round game so Yay for the others to. They'll probably beat us next time anyway. Our luck is never that good. __________________ Destroy the dementors not the demented. Dont heckle the supervillain Note to Self: Remember that sarcasm is hard to detect from text. What ever you do, don't click this link! my LJ

05-29-2004, 05:11 PM	#95
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Um.. I thought I meant 86, I'm not so sure now. I think it was 86. Yes, there's been a bit of a joke in the UK because the England captain choose to resign gracfully, something which many people think the PM should do now. There is a cartoon of the chancellor's house (the man who would succeed the Tony Blair) with a large banner outside reading: 'Nasser Hussein. Good retirement decision'. __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton.

06-08-2004, 06:27 PM	#96
Draken Elf Lord Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, England Posts: 694	Two series wins on the bounce for England...what IS happening? Harmison ranked #2 in the world and Geraint Jones showing he's a bona fide batting wicket keeper...all we need now is a decent spinner! __________________ I'm beset by self-doubt ....or am I?

06-09-2004, 03:53 AM	#97
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Yeah, it's weird. Can't believe that Harmison is number 2 in the world; he seems far too inconsistent and (no disrespect to NZ or WI) he hasn't really produced the goods against one of the top batting teams (Aus, India, SA)

06-17-2004, 04:29 AM	#98
Draken Elf Lord Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, England Posts: 694	Derbyshire beat New Zealand! The glory days of winning the Nat West Trophy on the last ball may be long gone, but I'll take whatever wins we can get these days. __________________ I'm beset by self-doubt ....or am I?

07-27-2004, 07:32 AM	#99
Draken Elf Lord Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, England Posts: 694	And it's another Test win for England! But to be honest the Windies seem in disarray these days. __________________ I'm beset by self-doubt ....or am I?

07-27-2004, 10:30 AM	#100
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	England probably deserved it, but Windies were unlucky with a couple of key umpiring decisions. Good batting display, though. I managed to catch Freddie in full flight, so that was a treat. Finally they dropped Butcher; pity it had to take an injury to make the selectors see sense.

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