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06-12-2003, 11:35 PM | #82 | |
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again by point is voiced as: "However it can be taken far too far when it becomes a strife between people just because they're from a different nation. The idea of 'This is our nation, you have nothing to do here, you have nothing to say here so just go away." is rather frightening at times. You can be part of a particular nation but that doesn't mean you can disrespect others who are not. Nor does it mean that you have the right to look only at your own interests. It's only natural to do so but it's sometimes important that you're able to look beyond nations to do things for the greater good" I think we are not saying anything different. I ask you this would you support NJ, or America NOT MATTER what?
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06-12-2003, 11:46 PM | #83 | |
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The quandary I can not answer is: given the above situation what would I do if they were at war with each other.
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OUr government is elected to represent our interests - just like all countries governments represent their interests. Quote:
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By the way - if I don't like something - i write letters - either to representatives or to the newspapers. Read the police thread - and you'll see what affect my letters sometimes have.
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06-12-2003, 11:52 PM | #85 | |
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New Jersey was actually split by the Mason Dixon Line if it had gone straight through New Jersey. Southern New Jersey actually supported the south more and northern New Jersey supported the north. Officially all of New Jersey supported the north of course - but the general populous of New Jersey was very divided on the issue.
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06-12-2003, 11:56 PM | #86 | |
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That it does not make us innately better humans being Americans. That we should not just tow the line just because its American. And a DAMN glad I am American. I think the only difference is you feel proud and I feel lucky. I am gonna start another thread that I think you might like.
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06-13-2003, 12:05 AM | #87 | |
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06-13-2003, 12:08 AM | #88 |
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IIRC you work with computers. Is politics / US History solely a hobby or is there some prior educational background?
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06-13-2003, 12:12 AM | #89 | |
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To HELL with the back to Africa movement of Marcus Garvey. Africa is !@#$ed UP. When I go home and hear my blacks friends complain about having it bad while having VCR's. CD's, heating, ACCESS to education, etc... I just shake my head.
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06-13-2003, 12:26 AM | #90 | |
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Then I had studied Russian history (particularly the Romanovs), American History (of course) and New Jersey History. Formally I haven't studied history - I have just read a lot. My goal - which I have sort of slacked on - is to read all the president's biographys from George Washington to who ever the president is when I die. I'm only on Thomas Jefferson though. The Thomas Jefferon biography I have though is 5 volumes. It's by Dumas Malone. I also go a lot to historic sites around NJ and have been to Philadelphia so many times that I can give the tours.
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06-13-2003, 12:33 AM | #91 | |
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It is true though - poor in this country is having a car and air conditioning, cell phone etc. People don't really know what poor is like. There are homeless of course - but the majority of poor people here have more than most people in the world. I was surprised at how many things unemployment offers. They offer classes for starting your own business, educational grants, the list of things they offer is unbelievable.
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Sheena/BoP -
You seemed to be pretty proud and "patriotic" sounding in your descriptions of New Zealand in the "What's your country like..." thread. Quote:
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06-13-2003, 01:08 AM | #94 |
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So? It's still just a rock. And it is an amazing place to be. There are some fantistically unique flora and fauna to be found here. Just as there is some unique attributes to be found in other countries.
I haven't been anywhere else in the world. No doubt I'll be saying some pretty similar stuff about other countries I plan to visit. Just because I find something to be beautiful does not mean that I'm being nationalistic. And New Zealand just happens to be a very pretty rock. But that doesn't change the fact that my being here was a pretty random process. My parents just happened to get naughty during their honeymoon, and next thing ya know: here I am! Ta da! In Noo Zeeland. I cherish my culture more than I cherish the continent I stand upon. Edit: And I should add that there's quite a big difference between an affinity for your place of birth, and nationalism. It would be silly for me to say outright that I don't have some fondness for being a New Zealander - of course I do, but as I said in an earlier post, I care more about the people I'm interact with than I do about any particular allegiance to my so-called country. Edit 2: Just to clear up the continent confusion. Last edited by Sheeana : 06-13-2003 at 02:12 AM. |
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Well just remember that if or when you leave you may feel differently. There is still no place like home. I've moved around enough and been to enough places to have experienced it first hand - that's why I feel the way I do about America and New Jersey.
By the way - New Zealand isn't a continent - it's an island country. Australia is a continent, Africa, Asia, Europe, North America, South America and Antartica - are continents.
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New Zealand is part of the Australasian continent, so yeah, it is a continent. It just happens to share it with Australia (dammit.)
I take your point about leaving. It may well be that some sort of nationalism may kick in then, but I sincerely doubt it. I will miss some things about New Zealand when I leave, but they're still cultural things, which I've already said I have an affinity for. By the way, I lied before. I completely forgot that I visited Australia once. (Must have been so traumatised, I blocked it out.) |
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Sorry, this is the best I could find:
http://www.paragliding.net/directory/places/contmap.htm New Zealand has a lot of volcanic activity due to the plate movement that occurs directly down the center of the north island, and some parts of the south. |
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Obviously that map really isn't broken up by continents though - because Mexico isn't included as part of North America - they list is as Latin America. Here is information on the continents
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Yes, I know JD. That's why I said it was the best I could find - it was a paragliding site for gawds sake (but it served my point that New Zealand is part of the Australasian continent.) But yes, thanks for finding a better site. Anyway, you are simply nitpicking now. New Zealand is part of the Australasian continent. I mentioned that I don't have an affinity to the continent I stand on. The point still stands. I don't.
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I should add that I don't recall directly calling New Zealand a continent (as in stand alone). If I somehow inferred that, then I'm sorry. It was not my intention. I'll edit the above 'continent' comment so it is more clear though. Apologies for the confusion.
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