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But speaking of ropes. I'm excited to see the repelling scene in E.E. Even if it wasn't in the theaters. |
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What do the elven blades have to do with anything about the Witch King's death?! It was the numenorean daggers that broke the spell, i don't think that Jackson wanted to use the elven weapons instead.
If Jackson does soo much propoganda then why hasn't he won best director? We all know that if he was such a propaganda-meister then he obviously would've sucked up to the academy people to get an award. I don't know what you are talking about with the "cheap wizard magic" lying stuff. There is no way that he can be such an all out liar like you say without making the movies into one and totally changing the plot and everything. He obviously has respect for Tolkien's work or he wouldn't have used the real Tokien language he would have concocted his own and taken credit for the whole thing.
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As news filtered out from the project over the past few years, however, I found myself facing a decision. I could lament the inevitable changes (Elijah Wood as Frodo absolutely drove me nuts-Frodo is 50, not 20!), or I could set aside my biases and attempt to enjoy the film without interpreting it as an attack on the beloved books. Even so, the first time I watched FOTR, it required an effort to disconnect myself from the books. After all, lines were being spoken by different characters, and at different times. Some of the effects were distracting (Gandalf at Bag End, Arwen in the Trollshaws, and Galadriel at the Mirror, for example). On balance, however, I believe that the movies have thus far done quite a good job of portraying the essence of Middle earth-the sorrow of the Elves, the desparate Quest against overwhelming evil, and the struggles of Frodo, even if some of the particulars are disappointing.
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The best psrt about choosing this particular book is it came with a ready-nmade cult followingf that guranteed to fill the seats. People alway say the changes were to popularize the material. It was really only to expand the already existing fan base. Notice that the extended versions are designed to appease hard core tolkienites.
The gift giving scene is not critical because, for instance, Frodo can say, "Oh, here's that phial galadriel gave me before we left Lorien" and it fits in either edition. PJ doesn't lie as much as he pitches to different audiences. This is part of the promotional aspect expected to sell the film. I saw one interview, in "From page to Screen" where he really played up "sticking to the text" while on the DVD he plays up not being confined to the text; making changes for the sake of change. It's not so much lying as it is... sales.
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I just have to say this: Pippin *burps*. That doesn't make it much better, but still...let's be accurate.
Pj obviously has a "thing" for burping (would that count as "action?" ), as he has included one in every version of each film -- he did it in FotR theatrical, Pippin in the Fotr EE, Gimli in TTT, and I bet he'll have one in the TT EE. My guess would be Merry or Pippin in the Flotsam and Jetsam scene. I thought it was stupid to have this in the movies; I just when it happens. |
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Something I have known from the beginning is that the movies were not made in particular for the book fans, but I think there was always the element in them that the book fans would embrace them, which some have and some haven't. I think it is safe to say though that no true book fan has embraced them completely. It's a lot easier to accept the movies as is, if you haven't read the books, than it is to expect a book fan of many years and readings to do the same. Not all of the movie is bad. Not all of the movie is good. It is what it is. If you are a movie fan only, (superb.) A book fan? Well, (mediocre.)
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As I said when FotR came out - I had one friend tell me it reminded him of Fast and Furiious.
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Of course Bill funding it would pose an even bigger problem, won't say why.
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As for bree and Jackson burping - well he's just a pig. I do have a problem with bree overall - because Jackson again stretched Tolkiens story. he made it into the cliched dark dreary town. It wasn't described like that in the books.
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