A Question on Balrogs - Page 5

Tar-Elendil · 06-12-2002, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Well, I never moaned because the topic was ressurected, nor that posters didn't intelligently debate Tolkien. It is just this particular topic has been debated to death for years. So there.

balrogs had wings..there, its settled. No more need to wonder if balrogs had wings or not. they just do

BeardofPants · 06-12-2002, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Ñólendil
I'm going to have to break my vegetarian diet and have lamb chops for dinner.

Go on. Break your veggie diet. It'll just mean I'm a better veggie than you...

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To answer your question, you said admins, in the plural. The only other person (besides SGH) who had expressed displeasure towards this beating of a very dead horse was me.

You gotta a problem with beating dead horses?

I was actually referring to CBG from another thread you egotistical ex-admin.

[EDITED]

(ref victimless crimes - last few pages.)

Wings of shadow.

Andúril · 06-13-2002, 09:45 AM

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Precious BoP:
Anduril, stop being such a little attention seeker.

Hey! .

This is my way of reaching out, okay (when I'm feeling sad and blue

). Give me a break.

Give me a Kit-Kat.

Ñólendil · 06-13-2002, 04:27 PM

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Go on. Break your veggie diet. It'll just mean I'm a better veggie than you...

No, it will just mean I won't have to be bothered by you anymore.

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You gotta a problem with beating dead horses?

Yes. I suppose you don't mind, as long as the horse isn't eaten?

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I was actually referring to CBG from another thread you egotistical ex-admin.

Bull-pucky.

Blackheart · 06-13-2002, 05:04 PM

*checks his back*

Whadaya know....

BeardofPants · 06-13-2002, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Blackheart
*checks his back*

Whadaya know....

See? What did I tell you? Wings of shadow!

Blackheart · 06-13-2002, 05:12 PM

I'm not telling. I can turn them off and on at will

Comic Book Guy · 06-13-2002, 05:47 PM

Eh, what?

Wayfarer · 06-13-2002, 05:52 PM

?

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the whole "Randy" thing (originally started by a poster named Morthoron somewhere else, and shipped over to Entmoot by the nefarious Wayfarer)

Don't you mean Morthorin, Randywelt? ]: )

Ñólendil · 06-13-2002, 08:09 PM

hehe, I may have meant Mormoron.

Willow Oran · 06-23-2002, 02:19 AM

I have never gotten a chance to express my opinion about this subject so I will now. I think that Balrogs do have wings. But I think that they are wings used only for display, on account of the fact that for a Balrog to have wings that it could fly with, the wings would have to be etremely large, otherwise they would not support the weight of the Balrog, however, it has been established that the balrogs were able to live undergroud, and while Khazad Dum was big it would still not be big enough to accomodate the size of wings requiered, this leaves the conclusion that the Wings of Shadow described in the book we're a form of power display that we're suitable only for mating displays and intimidation. Which brings us to the even more interesting question of Which type of display was the Balrog in Moria using it's wings for? Mating or intimidation?

Andúril · 06-23-2002, 09:47 AM

Mating. Balrogs have a fondness for Pippins.

Willow Oran · 06-23-2002, 05:10 PM

The poor Balrog, Gandalf must have broken it's heart.

SamwiseGamgeeOTS · 06-27-2002, 10:30 AM

Jedipati- On the queastion on whether Balrogs have wings...as previously stated, that is now a source of humor in the world of Tolkien fans. On TheOneRing.net they have a list of the top ten LOTR toys that have to be made, and one just happends to be a balrog with detachable wings. I too agree with others that if a Balrog did have wings, that it wouldn't fall. However, like other animals maybe its' body-weight is too great for the Balrog to fly. There's something you might not have thought of. I don't want to start something huge by posting this....so be nice.

elendili · 07-02-2002, 04:44 AM

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I too agree with others that if a Balrog did have wings, that it wouldn't fall

It might have falled due to the fact that it's wings were too large to unfurl in the chasm it was falling into so though it could fly it was unable to stop its fall coz it couldn't open it's wings

Elf Girl · 07-02-2002, 07:10 AM

I believe the display wings were for intimidation, as our Balrog was the last.

Radagast The Brown · 07-02-2002, 02:56 PM

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originally posted by SamwiseGamgeeOTS
I too agree with others that if a Balrog did have wings, that it wouldn't fall

not necessarily. The balrog have wings, and it just can't fly with them. As an ostrich.

Blackheart · 07-02-2002, 03:36 PM

Here's a fine little compromise. A balrog is an Ainur.

Ainur have the ability to take different forms. (unless they lock themselves into a certain form for particular reasons, such as sauron or melkor did).

So if a Balrog wanted wings, he'd have wings. And it he wanted tentacles, he'd have tentacles. And if he wanted giant goat balls, he'd have giant goat balls....

Radagast The Brown · 07-02-2002, 03:42 PM

I don't think so. They were a race- they all were like each other (not exactly like each, roughly). So I think that if one of them have wings, they all had.

Andúril · 07-02-2002, 04:00 PM

Hmmm, and if a balrog wanted wings that could make it fly? Would it then materialize wings, and then fall off a mountain/down a chasm?

"Damn chicken wings..."

06-13-2002, 05:04 PM	#85
Blackheart Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Darkness Posts: 1,211	checks his back Whadaya know.... __________________ I have harnessed the shadows that stride from world to world to sow death and madness... Queer haow a cravin' gits a holt on ye -- As ye love the Almighty, young man, don't tell nobody, but I swar ter Gawd thet picter begun ta make me hungry fer victuals I couldn't raise nor buy -- here, set still, what's ailin' ye? ...

06-13-2002, 05:12 PM	#87
Blackheart Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Darkness Posts: 1,211	I'm not telling. I can turn them off and on at will __________________ I have harnessed the shadows that stride from world to world to sow death and madness... Queer haow a cravin' gits a holt on ye -- As ye love the Almighty, young man, don't tell nobody, but I swar ter Gawd thet picter begun ta make me hungry fer victuals I couldn't raise nor buy -- here, set still, what's ailin' ye? ...

06-13-2002, 08:09 PM	#90
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	hehe, I may have meant Mormoron. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

06-23-2002, 02:19 AM	#91
Willow Oran Deus Ex Machina Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,951	I have never gotten a chance to express my opinion about this subject so I will now. I think that Balrogs do have wings. But I think that they are wings used only for display, on account of the fact that for a Balrog to have wings that it could fly with, the wings would have to be etremely large, otherwise they would not support the weight of the Balrog, however, it has been established that the balrogs were able to live undergroud, and while Khazad Dum was big it would still not be big enough to accomodate the size of wings requiered, this leaves the conclusion that the Wings of Shadow described in the book we're a form of power display that we're suitable only for mating displays and intimidation. Which brings us to the even more interesting question of Which type of display was the Balrog in Moria using it's wings for? Mating or intimidation? __________________ "5. Plain Rings with RUNES on the inside. Avoid these like the PLAGUE. -Diana Wynne Jones Tough Guide To FantasyLand ...it's not much of a show if somebody doesn't suffer, and preferably at length. Suffering is beautiful in any case, and so is anguish; but as for loathing, and bitterness... I don't think they belong on the stage at all. - Isabella, I Gelosi

06-23-2002, 05:10 PM	#93
Willow Oran Deus Ex Machina Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,951	The poor Balrog, Gandalf must have broken it's heart. __________________ "5. Plain Rings with RUNES on the inside. Avoid these like the PLAGUE. -Diana Wynne Jones Tough Guide To FantasyLand ...it's not much of a show if somebody doesn't suffer, and preferably at length. Suffering is beautiful in any case, and so is anguish; but as for loathing, and bitterness... I don't think they belong on the stage at all. - Isabella, I Gelosi

06-13-2002, 05:47 PM	#88
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Eh, what?

06-23-2002, 09:47 AM	#92
Andúril The Original Corruptor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,881	Mating. Balrogs have a fondness for Pippins.

06-27-2002, 10:30 AM	#94
SamwiseGamgeeOTS Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A quaint little hole which last time I checked was somewhere near Ohio, Middle-Earth. Posts: 165	Jedipati- On the queastion on whether Balrogs have wings...as previously stated, that is now a source of humor in the world of Tolkien fans. On TheOneRing.net they have a list of the top ten LOTR toys that have to be made, and one just happends to be a balrog with detachable wings. I too agree with others that if a Balrog did have wings, that it wouldn't fall. However, like other animals maybe its' body-weight is too great for the Balrog to fly. There's something you might not have thought of. I don't want to start something huge by posting this....so be nice. __________________ "...Eragon recoiled in shock. Standing in front of him, licking off the membrane that encased it, was a dragon."

07-02-2002, 07:10 AM	#96
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	I believe the display wings were for intimidation, as our Balrog was the last. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

07-02-2002, 03:36 PM	#98
Blackheart Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Darkness Posts: 1,211	Here's a fine little compromise. A balrog is an Ainur. Ainur have the ability to take different forms. (unless they lock themselves into a certain form for particular reasons, such as sauron or melkor did). So if a Balrog wanted wings, he'd have wings. And it he wanted tentacles, he'd have tentacles. And if he wanted giant goat balls, he'd have giant goat balls.... __________________ I have harnessed the shadows that stride from world to world to sow death and madness... Queer haow a cravin' gits a holt on ye -- As ye love the Almighty, young man, don't tell nobody, but I swar ter Gawd thet picter begun ta make me hungry fer victuals I couldn't raise nor buy -- here, set still, what's ailin' ye? ...

07-02-2002, 03:42 PM	#99
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I don't think so. They were a race- they all were like each other (not exactly like each, roughly). So I think that if one of them have wings, they all had. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

07-02-2002, 04:00 PM	#100
Andúril The Original Corruptor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,881	Hmmm, and if a balrog wanted wings that could make it fly? Would it then materialize wings, and then fall off a mountain/down a chasm? "Damn chicken wings..."

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