11-23-2004, 02:27 PM | #81 | |
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And yes, I do think the monarchy will survive Prince William. There's no process for getting rid of it and no idea of what will replace it. There's been a monarchy in Britain for over a thousand years - I just can't see a government saying "right, we'll abolish the monarchy" any more than they'll say "right, we'll abolish the Houses of Parliament". More likely is that over the next couple of centuries (and I really think it will take that long) the monarchy will become slowly reformed out of existence. Unless there's a revolution or state of emergency like nuclear war or whatever.
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Thanks for your views on the future of the Monarchy. I can't read today.
If Chrys wants to outline his vision in the Imagine thread, I think that would be superb! It needs a little CPR...
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11-23-2004, 04:57 PM | #85 |
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I suspect the monarchy will survive because of William, not just necessarily beyond William. (I think we could do with a nice strong king. NB: If we have no monarchy, it would president Blair or Howard after the next election... )
BoP, what exactly do you mean by 'letting them out'?
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I meant that in some cases, they deliberately "release" a fox (caged, and relocated from another area), then sick the hounds onto it.
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11-23-2004, 05:28 PM | #87 |
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11-23-2004, 05:47 PM | #88 |
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What does everyone think of the possible smoking ban?
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11-23-2004, 05:57 PM | #89 |
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Well, being conservative, I am evil and I do hate people's freedom. I suppose there is the off chance it might do some people good...
I wonder if instead there could be some ammendments to law dictating that medical priority would go to non-smokers... but that in itself is less ethical than saying that people cannot smoke if they so desire.
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Messybeast.com. I'm referring to the practice of releasing foxes on private land for a hunt.
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11-24-2004, 04:37 AM | #92 | |
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I read that it has had an overall positive impact on trade in parts of Ireland, and I think we might see that here too. As for identity cards, I don't know when we last had them. I can see some practical benefits, but they are mostly for the government and I am against anything that makes it easier for the government to keep tabs on you. Basically, I see identity cards as an instrument of oppression. They were certainly used as such in the past (e.g. in South Africa) and would certainly be used as such in the future (e.g. against minority groups). With the various agencies being much more "joined-up" these days (e.g. police access to finance data, mobile phone records, email and internet traffic, etc) we need to take a rest from building the infrastructure for totalitarianism rather than speeding it up. God, Blunkett is such a nazi. |
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11-24-2004, 05:32 AM | #93 | |
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ID cards are a strange idea. Everyone has plenty of ID to prove who they are if they need to, and I can't see that it will stop terrorism - as Charles Kennedy said yesterday, they didn't stop it in Madrid. Why would ID cards be harder to fake than passports or other kinds of ID? I don't really understand the reasoning behind it
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I'm not a smoker but i can't see why there should be a total ban on smoking. With regards to human rights and freedom, why shouldn't a compromise be reached so that smokers are not made to feel alienated/ Many pubs have designated smoking and non-smoking areas. Why shouldn't these just be increased, rather than having an outright ban?
It seems that there are many people out there who like to take the moral high ground, but I think that it is a question of civil liberties (much in the same way as ID badges). I for one find that as long as smoke is not being blown in my face, or that I am not constantly breathing it in, then it is not a problem that other people are smoking in areas that i don't have to go into. The healthcare point that MPs like to make is a joke. Sure, smoking-related ill-health accounts for a large part of the provision of health care (how much depends on who provides the statistics): so do eating habits, drink, lifestyles etc. Does that mean all these should be banned or people should be restricted from them so that they are less of a burden to the NHS? "State" and "Nanny" spring to mind.
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I'm a smoker, and Edinburgh's ban will start in 2006 so i've got a while to quit. Not impressed mind.
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(BTW - is there anyone here who wouldn't be more inclined to eat a red-light food once you knew the government thought you shouldn't?)
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And cocaine and heroin? Drugs that potentially kill. Should they be legal?
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