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01-06-2005, 02:36 AM | #82 |
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I think the saddest moment is when Frodo tells Sam to go home when they are climbing the stairs near minus morgul, i almost cried!!! my second is when Borimier (i dont know how to spell his name...) died, i dont really like him in the movie, but it was still sad!!!
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01-06-2005, 03:39 PM | #83 |
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yes, Frodo telling Sam to go is one of the saddest moments in the films. One of the things PJ did which I don't think is so bad. it creates a excitement in the movie. a nice move I think.
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01-06-2005, 10:39 PM | #85 |
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There may be other subtext there to the movie Frodo, he may have been more willing to sacrifice gollum than sam, which would be consistant with sending sam back. Recall that Frodo tried to leave sam behind at the Parth galen when he decided to go the Mordor alone.
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01-07-2005, 03:13 PM | #86 |
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I think I'm going to have to change my original choice...
Finrod's death is still sad (obviously, since it depresses me at times, ) but I don't think it's even nearly as tragically awful as Beleg's...
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01-11-2005, 04:23 PM | #87 |
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I think it would be either when boromir dies or when all of the fellowship have to go their own ways at the end
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Does this mean you have finally realised that Beleg is beter than Finrod? |
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01-17-2005, 04:34 PM | #91 | |
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No, it doesn't. I cannot comprehend the mindset which would make that irrational idea logical, but... Finrod died to save a friend. Beleg... was killed by a friend. The sheer pointless waste of it makes it sadder. As in, I can see a light of hope in Finrod's (and combine that with the realisation that he was quickly released from Mandos), but not in Beleg's. [edited] words keep on getting edited out of my posts! I'll put them in French since it won't work in English anyway: morte et hait. !!! It might just be this stupid computer, though!
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01-17-2005, 11:26 PM | #93 |
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I think I have to agree with those of you who say Beleg's death was the saddest. I had forgotten about Beleg, since it's been a while since I read Sil, but that was the saddest moment when I read it, much sadder than anything in the other books. To die at the hands of a friend! Or to unintentionally kill a friend! Either side of the situation is about as sad as it can get.
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01-18-2005, 06:02 PM | #94 |
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Yeah, Beleg I too have forgotten. But I don't remember it as sad as when Sam thinks Frodo is dead, and leave him after Shelob(the books) I cried when they read that to me. But from the Sil, it have to be Beleg. but when I think about it, a lot of the things in that book are sad.
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"...but I love not the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Numenor." "'I would,' said Faramir. And he took her in his arms and kissed her under the sunlit sky, and he cared not that they stood high upon the walls in the sight of many. And many indeed saw them and the light that shone about them as they came down from the walls and went hand in hand to the Houses of Healing." |
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01-19-2005, 01:27 PM | #96 |
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So glad you agree about Beleg's death, It's just tragic and so dramatic. Especially if he was your favourite character and he died.
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01-19-2005, 03:29 PM | #97 |
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As an avid Feanorian lover, The saddest moment for me was when Maedhros and Maglor finally fulfill their cursed oath and get two of the Silmarills back, only to find that all the fighting, kinslaying and the deaths of their father and brothers has been in vain ,that they cannot hold, let alone take the Silmarills back with them as they promised. Then Wracked with guilt and torment the once strong, eldest Maedhros kills himself, and the gentle Maglor wanders the shores alone in grief forever. Neither wanted anything to do with the oath in the first place .Loyalty to their father forced them into it.
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Feanor was not an Elf to take no for an answer! In Tolkien's notes he made reference to Feanor burning the ships at the Firth of Drengist, with one of his twin sons on board because he thought that he was going to betray him and sail backto rejoin his mother. The Silmarills were his obsession and he could have killed any of his sons if they refused to take the oath or dare break it. It's hard to believe it, but I still like all of them |
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