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McClellan? He really sucked as a Civil War general, and I'd hate to see him playing Gandalf.
Ian McKellen...on the other hand...I liked him, personally, but even if you didn't like him, you've got to admit that it's going to cause serious continuity issues if you change the actor. I mean, compare to having someone like...oh, I dunno...Mel Gibson as Aragorn for the very last movie? Yah, that would be distracting.
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I don't think 'there are other good actors' is a good enough argument to get a new name to play Gandalf. If we follow that argument we should remake and remake every other movie just to get other good actors to play that specific character for want of another experience. I'd say, if you didn't like him and want another man to take up the grey robes and pointy hat, by all means, do. But if it ain't broke, no need to fix it. But instead of continue knocking sir Ian McKellen, lets look at other good Gandalf possibilities. Which other good actor would you like to play Gandalf instead?
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True, it doesn't have to be a known actor.
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I think I would make a dashing Aragorn....
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Oh haha.
You know hector, if I wanted Gandalf to be eye-candy, I'd have lobbied for the likes of Hugh Jackman by now...
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I sincerely hope that they won't make weird arrangements like leaving out The Unexpected Party or crap-ideas like this.
Movies based on books have this tendency to rush everything, so don't expect any slow development like in the book. *Gandalf SHOULD chat a while with Bilbo at the door-step *The Dwarves SHOULD make a long visit so as to let the audience get to know them *The party SHOULD visit Beorn *The movie SHOULD explain the situation in the Elven-king's halls PLEASE, don't leave this out. Last edited by Peter_20 : 03-18-2007 at 09:32 AM. |
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How dissapointing. I was expecting this post to be about a possible Hobbit movie but all it centered around was one man's obsessive, opinionated, ill-founded critique of an actor. If there was an intelligent foundation for the criticism it wouldn't be so bad.
You are never going to have a completely satisfactory and accurate transition from book to film...they are entirely different mediums. A character in a book will always lose some profundity when taken to the big screen and it has to be; in most cases, visual over character because that's what movies are. Given the circumstances Ian Mckellen did a great interpretation of Gandalf. Lets not forget he's an actor not a director, working for a director who's visual effects orientated. Honestly, who is going to play a perfect Gandalf? A demi-god in the form of an old man? We are talking about an actor who has over forty years of acting experience playing an extremely difficult role for a visually obsessed director. You are living in dreamworld if you think someone could ever play Gandalf perfectly on screen. Gandalf by his very nature is enigmatic...No one knows what he was like as Olorin...how much he revealed of his true nature through Gandalf and how much he did not. If you were a thespian with four decades of experience also you would be in the position to criticise peer performances. Or maybe its not his performance you have a problem with...maybe its his sexuality. Who knows. |
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Personally, I thought he was a very good Gandalf in the first movie. But as soon as he got white, he came off as pretentious most of the time. But I think that was mostly Jackson's fault.
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To quote the famous hobbit himself:
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Yes Rian I gave an opinion, which consisted of one sentence, not a multi page spanning rant, which is what I was complaining about if you read what I had written. Please, enlighten me...how did he come across as being "pretentious" in his Gandalf the White embodiment? It was my understanding, from reading the books, that in that incarnation he was meant to be more pretentious..more action...reveal more of his power. A naked flame, as it were, as compared with the grey ashes, hiding the power within.
Sometimes I think that maybe some things were lost in translation when the books passed across the pond. Oh btw, hector...how did he "meddle'? |
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I don't agree with your view of the situation, since lots of people were participating in a pleasant, fun, back-and-forth discussion. (and I thought your comment was a bit snarky for a newbie, too! ) Personally, I think Hector's posts are fun, and usually quite perceptive, too. I thought he had some good points. Quote:
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