Who's the real hero of "Lord of the Rings"? - Page 5

Entlover · 09-06-2002, 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by Harad
Anybody who is essential to the successful quest is a co-hero.

Illogical, Captain Kirk.
That would include people like Barliman Butterbur, who provided essential lodging and food.

Heroism implies the exercise of bravery. Only members of the fellowship and people like soldiers of Rohan qualify. Gollum is not a hero, he is a miserable being who was used by Fate to achieve its ends.

Beleg Strongbow · 09-06-2002, 08:21 AM

has to be Gandalf

Dain · 09-06-2002, 05:57 PM

Although not a hero in the true sence Gollum played a big part in distroying the Ring was'nt it Gollum who lead Frodo and Sam through the Dead Marshes and showed them to the land of Mordor. I know his only intrest was in getting the Ring back but on the top of Mount Doom when Frodo's strenth left him just like Isildur it was Gollums gread for the Ring that in the end distroyed the Ring without him the Ring would have remained and Sauron would have reclaimed it

Lizra · 09-06-2002, 06:24 PM

Hmmm, I'm liking Gandalf too! He was the man with the plan in many ways, but Frodo is the key player. I was just so happy for Gandalf when it was all said and done.

Rána Eressëa · 09-08-2002, 08:04 PM

I couldn't place anyone as a real hero since without the actions and aids of many others, none of them would have gotten as far as they did.

BeardofPants · 09-08-2002, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Dain
... it was Gollums gread for the Ring that in the end distroyed the Ring without him the Ring would have remained and Sauron would have reclaimed it

Poor Gollum! He was subjected to nigh on 500 years with that thing; I can't say I really blame him for crumbling. And I still say, that had he the time, he would have voluntarily disposed of the ring, at great cost to himself. If the nazgul hadn't been coming for the ring, and if the story hadn't resolved as it did, I think he probably would have thrown himself into the fires of Mt. Doom. Poor Gollum.

mirial · 09-10-2002, 09:33 PM

I think that there can really be no specifying any one person. They all worked together to destroy it, whether they were in the Black Land or not.

Linarryl · 10-19-2002, 12:40 PM

I'd love to say Legolas, but saddly I gotta say Aragorn.

Tar-Elendil · 10-19-2002, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by entss89
its pippin!

i have to agree!

Fred Baggins · 10-19-2002, 02:36 PM

hum... I would have to go with three people. Frodo, Frodo, and ...Frodo! *looks around at all the frowning faces* What?

Blackboar · 01-10-2003, 01:27 PM

I would love to say Legolas too

but I think it was Sam, he saved Frodo many times, he took the ring from him so it didn't get taken.
On the other hand, its Gollum, without him biting the ring from Frodo's hand and falling into the Cracks of Doom who knows what would of happened?

Beleg Strongbow · 01-10-2003, 02:09 PM

I think that a hero is someone who overcomes a negative situation with the intent of doing good. Gollum doesn't qualify.

Eothain · 01-10-2003, 04:18 PM

ARAGORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FattyBulger · 01-10-2003, 11:02 PM

What about Bilbo?!?!?!? He got the ring from gollum in the first place and was the only guy in history to ever (willingly) give the ring away 4 good!

durin's bane · 01-11-2003, 12:11 PM

I think they're all heroes. Each member of the Fellowship did something to save Middle-earth.

entss89 · 01-11-2003, 08:04 PM

pleazzzz is that a ? , of corse its aragorn!

RosieCotton · 01-11-2003, 09:26 PM

Sam!

But I guess you can't say just one person... if you took out any one of them, the Quest would probably have failed.

Rosie

Legolaslvr! · 01-12-2003, 08:36 PM

Hmmmmmmm!!!!!!

That's a tough one I think that all the Fellowship has done a great job of protecting the ring from Rivendell to Mt.Doom even though there is a few deaths here and there!

But I think Sam protects the ring the most!

Other than Frodo for keeping his hopes up and being so brave.

FattyBulger · 01-13-2003, 12:14 AM

Anyone who had anything to do with the ring (now that I think about it) must be a hero. There were lots of rolls to be played that (when complete) created heros.

Most heros of the second and third ages are heros[PHP]

Sicirus · 01-16-2003, 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by FattyBulger
Anyone who had anything to do with the ring (now that I think about it) must be a hero. There were lots of rolls to be played that (when complete) created heros.

Most heros of the second and third ages are heros[PHP]

There were alot of bad creatures who were the servants of Sauron who "Had something to do with the ring" but were not any help when it came to its destruction. Actually they made it harder.

09-06-2002, 08:21 AM	#82
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	has to be Gandalf __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

09-08-2002, 08:04 PM	#85
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	I couldn't place anyone as a real hero since without the actions and aids of many others, none of them would have gotten as far as they did. Last edited by Rána Eressëa : 09-09-2002 at 12:56 AM.

09-10-2002, 09:33 PM	#87
mirial Enting Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: only in your dreams...or nightmares :) Posts: 93	(The real hero?) I think that there can really be no specifying any one person. They all worked together to destroy it, whether they were in the Black Land or not.

10-19-2002, 02:36 PM	#90
Fred Baggins Belladona Gamgee of the night sky Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: second star to the right and straight on till morning. Posts: 1,783	hum... I would have to go with three people. Frodo, Frodo, and ...Frodo! looks around at all the frowning faces What? __________________ Emperor Cusco: Lemme guess. We're about to go down a huge water-fall. Pacha:Yep. Cusco: Sharp rocks at the bottum? Pacha:Most likely. Cusco:Bring it on. ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` Yes, I'm female. Fred Baggins is my NICKNAME! ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "The reason of the unreasonable treatment of my reason so enfeebles my reason, that with reason I complain of your beauty."~Don Quixote ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Once upon a time there was a magical land where it never rained. The End."~from the movie 'Holes' ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` ()_))_Crayola_))_>

01-10-2003, 02:09 PM	#92
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	I think that a hero is someone who overcomes a negative situation with the intent of doing good. Gollum doesn't qualify. __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

09-06-2002, 05:57 PM	#83
Dain Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 20	Although not a hero in the true sence Gollum played a big part in distroying the Ring was'nt it Gollum who lead Frodo and Sam through the Dead Marshes and showed them to the land of Mordor. I know his only intrest was in getting the Ring back but on the top of Mount Doom when Frodo's strenth left him just like Isildur it was Gollums gread for the Ring that in the end distroyed the Ring without him the Ring would have remained and Sauron would have reclaimed it

09-06-2002, 06:24 PM	#84
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Hmmm, I'm liking Gandalf too! He was the man with the plan in many ways, but Frodo is the key player. I was just so happy for Gandalf when it was all said and done.

10-19-2002, 12:40 PM	#88
Linarryl Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 160	I'd love to say Legolas, but saddly I gotta say Aragorn.

01-10-2003, 01:27 PM	#91
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	I would love to say Legolas too but I think it was Sam, he saved Frodo many times, he took the ring from him so it didn't get taken. On the other hand, its Gollum, without him biting the ring from Frodo's hand and falling into the Cracks of Doom who knows what would of happened?

01-10-2003, 04:18 PM	#93
Eothain Enting Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 73	LOTR ARAGORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpsting, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? They have past like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning? Frodo lives

01-10-2003, 11:02 PM	#94
FattyBulger Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 22	What about Bilbo?!?!?!? He got the ring from gollum in the first place and was the only guy in history to ever (willingly) give the ring away 4 good! __________________ Georgia Productions

01-11-2003, 12:11 PM	#95
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	I think they're all heroes. Each member of the Fellowship did something to save Middle-earth. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

01-11-2003, 08:04 PM	#96
entss89 lord of the ents Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: nc Posts: 539	pleazzzz is that a ? , of corse its aragorn! __________________ ( tune: im a little teapot) im a little hobbit short and stout here is my ring evil without a doubt when you get me hipped up here me shout get me to mordo as quick as you can.. if you like that song then you should visit www.lordoftherings.net! the ents are coming the ents are coming watch out tower of orthanc for your dark walls shall fall! sauroman, sauroman your name is not the white! for now you are sauroman of many colors! a best frind does not stab u in the back................... they stab u in the front.

01-11-2003, 09:26 PM	#97
RosieCotton Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hobbiton...no wait.... Posts: 263	Sam! But I guess you can't say just one person... if you took out any one of them, the Quest would probably have failed. Rosie __________________ Fortune rides like the Sun on high With the fox that makes the ravens fly Luck his sould, the lightning his eye He snatches the moons from out of the sky.

01-12-2003, 08:36 PM	#98
Legolaslvr! Super Smilie Freak Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the entmoot army, trying to get rid of black and blue! Posts: 350	Hmmmmmmm!!!!!! That's a tough one I think that all the Fellowship has done a great job of protecting the ring from Rivendell to Mt.Doom even though there is a few deaths here and there! But I think Sam protects the ring the most! Other than Frodo for keeping his hopes up and being so brave.

01-13-2003, 12:14 AM	#99
FattyBulger Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 22	Anyone who had anything to do with the ring (now that I think about it) must be a hero. There were lots of rolls to be played that (when complete) created heros. Most heros of the second and third ages are heros[PHP] __________________ Georgia Productions

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