04-11-2007, 06:18 PM | #961 | |
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04-11-2007, 07:14 PM | #962 | |
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Agreed on the second statement!
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04-11-2007, 07:16 PM | #963 | |
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04-11-2007, 07:27 PM | #964 | |
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04-11-2007, 09:13 PM | #965 | |
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... and TOTALLY off-topic - what is it today with misspellings and grammar mistakes in the threads?! My inner Grammar Nazi is stirring up ...
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04-11-2007, 09:43 PM | #966 | ||
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For myself, I don't think I'd want to be married to someone who was miserable and not attracted to me, whatever the cause. I happen to think I'm "all that" and I expect my partner/s to think so, too. So, in that case, I hope I'd be able to get over my mad in a way that let my spouse go and continue to be a parent, instead of trying to lock them down and bring up the kids in that situation. Quote:
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04-11-2007, 11:43 PM | #968 | |
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But in terms of being married to someone who discovers they're gay... That's momentous, and not the sort of thing people are likely to do on a whim. I seriously doubt anyone says, "Well, we never have resolved that "cap on the toothpaste" thing...better change my sexual preference, that'll solve it!" So, if it comes to that, you can already exclude the action being taken to make lightweight problems go away. It's action taken to deal with a big, and legitimate, problem. When, in a marriage, you have a "big and legitimate problem", your first task is to see to the welfare of the children. And part of the welfare of the children must be to see adults model appropriate problem solving behavior. Most adults stink at that, imo. They have no real problem solving skills, and their kids are stuck with whatever leftover dysfunction the family does. That's true in daily problems, and it's true exponentially in the biggies. But with faith, and a true concentration on the impact on the children, they may rise to the occasion. Gay people have families. They have parents, and grandparents, and siblings, and cousins, and many of them have children, even without adoption. You can't talk about "family" and exclude "gay", so you need to find a way to support, if you're going to support "children", the children of "gay families", which is quite a lot of families. |
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04-12-2007, 03:56 AM | #969 | |
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Never mind the bollocks, baby, and keep on posting, 'cause I love what you've got to say, and please, never be intimidated or feel "shamed" by these old-dog controversial-topic arguers around here. Listen, some of these people have been arguing this very same exhausted old topic, right here on Entmoot, for over 3 years now, they are old hands at it, and you crossed swords with a couple of the oldest dogs, so don't let it discourage you, young Elven Dragonrider! Don't let some of these sugary-forceful arguers around here intimidate you, and try not to ever apologise for what you have to say. Never, never tell 'em you're "sorry," 'cause you're not sorry, babe, you've got valid and heartfelt points to make, and there's nothing sorry at all about that, 'specially when it comes straight from the heart and not some dogmatised, hypnotised "loving" fake place. Never let the turkeys get you down. Rock on, Elven Dragonrider! That is all...
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04-12-2007, 09:35 AM | #970 | |
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I just wanted to make it clear that I don't categorize groups such as christians or non-christians as all holding the same beliefs. But, I stand by my point that on some things, like abortion and homosexual marriage, there are some christians who oppose it for biblical reasons and biblical reasons alone. In fact, in some ways, I find it easier to understand those who take their stand purely on scriptural grounds than those who try continuously to fabricate shakey non-scriptural logic to justify their positions (which is particularly apparent in the homosexual debate where some will accept civil unions, but reject "marriage", but can be seen as well in the abortion debate, and definitely in the contraception debate).
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04-12-2007, 10:11 AM | #971 | |
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04-12-2007, 11:29 AM | #972 | |
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04-12-2007, 11:41 AM | #973 | |
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04-12-2007, 01:29 PM | #974 |
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The two ways I heard "agnostic" defined by an agnostic English professor of mine were:
1) Being unreligious because of not knowing whether or not God exists. 2) Being unreligious because of not believing anyone can know whether or not God exists.
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04-12-2007, 02:32 PM | #977 | |
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would mean "The set of non-religious is greater or lesser than the set of people who are covered by the terms atheist or agnostic" Yes? So, my question is, "What group could be added to the set of people who are atheist and agnostic, who would make it equal to the set of people who are non-religious?" |
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Non-religous > atheist/agnostic. But no, all I meant was that "non-religious" and "atheist/agnostic" are not convertible terms. Quote:
But of course, you also have to drop the theistic agnostics from the non-religious group, and bring them down to the level of the religious. But I'm not really sure I approve of trying to attain some sort of equivalency. To my mind, religion and theism are two different things, and I don't see why one would want to make them equal one another. It almost seems like trying to make the number of people with brown hair equal the number of people who are six feet tall.
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Hooray for Missouri!
Finally, a step towards licensing abortion clinics. Right now, there's usually more regulations for manicurists than abortion providers. linky-link (note - the link is from USA-Today, hardly a "religious" magazine)
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I'm pretty sure most states already require all doctors to be licensed, so it might be kind of redundant. The bigger question is whether they will actually be inspected. Licensing is a common method for states to regulate, but all too often the licensing is never followed up on after it is acquired.
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