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I'm back from Arizona - I'll pick out some more bits to share/discuss from the proposed Kansas changes in a few hours.
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put another way: if the bible simply did not exist, is there any evidence that would lead to a scientific deduction (theory) that the earth was just about 6,000 years old?
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put another way: if the bible simply did not exist, is there any evidence that would lead to a scientific deduction (theory) that the earth was just about 6,000 years old?
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science, on the other hand, assumes (right or wrong) that what we observe in the world is representative of our past... and besides just compatibility, a theory must have testability... i.e. "if this theory is correct, you would expect x, y and z... lets go out in the real world and see if x, y and z are as predicted" by definition, the existance of god is untestable, this does not mean he does not exist... it just means that conjectures concerning god are unscientific Quote:
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hmmm, 6,000 yrs old???? the fosil record goes to the millions.
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and on the evidence (which could use a bit more detail on your part)
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Hey, brownie, did you see my response to these two posts:
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Hey, brownie, did you see my response to these two posts:
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but if you want to argue for a 6,000 year old planet (or universe) scientifically, it has to be done based upon observable evidence to be science... not upon unobservable (or even logically impliable) evidence like "god" simply put... arguing that the earth is 6,000 years old can be presented as a logical scientific argument (to be disputed, of course)... arguing that some being "created" us, or anything for that matter, can never be a logical scientific argument, because the hypothesis can not be tested one way or another
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but if you want to argue for a 6,000 year old planet (or universe) scientifically, it has to be done based upon observable evidence to be science... not upon unobservable (or even logically impliable) evidence like "god" simply put... arguing that the earth is 6,000 years old can be presented as a logical scientific argument (to be disputed, of course)... arguing that some being "created" us, or anything for that matter, can never be a logical scientific argument, because the hypothesis can not be tested one way or another
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there are many evidences of a worldwide flood this clickhere is just the tip of the iceberg
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Those are some really old creationist tracks that have been debunked several times even on this message board nevermind in scientific circles. I mean the mud one has been abondoned by creationists because its such a poor argument. Same is true for the salt one.
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Those are some really old creationist tracks that have been debunked several times even on this message board nevermind in scientific circles. I mean the mud one has been abondoned by creationists because its such a poor argument. Same is true for the salt one.
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As to the article you posted on the preservation of osteocalcin, I wasn't able to find any evidence presented there, he just made claims and referenced papers that are not available for perusal unless you subscribe to the journals they are published in. In response to your quote on coal, check this out. http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea...i1/forests.asp and http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v1/i1/noah.asp By the way, the examples I was referring to were actually fossilized tree trunks found on end going through multiple layers of coal. Quote:
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