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It seems simple to me..........either obey the basic doctrine or ignore it when other things seem to be more important *shrugs* |
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religion is mans take on the divine, religion can be used for evil purpouses jsut like a bible, you can beat the hell out of someoen with a bible, or you can help them with it, so is it religion or evil people, and i never defend religion
religion cant be perfect because there are always changes, are you saying todays version of religion X is correct, cause 40 years ago it was different, and 40 years from nwo somethign else will be, its got to be 100% to be perfect.
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Greenlee writes in Introduction to New Testament Textual Criticim about the time gap between the original MSS (the autograph) and the extant MSS (the old copy surviving) saying that "the oldest known MSS. Of most of the Greek classical authors are dated a thousand years or more after the author’s death. The time interval for the Latin authors is somewhat less, varying down to a minimum of three centuries in the case of Virgil. In the case of the New Testament, however, two of the most important MSS. were written within 300 years after the New Testament was completed, and some virtually complete New Testament books as well as extensive fragmentary MSS. of many parts of thet New Testament date back to one century from the original writings." Greenlee adds that "Since scholars accept as generally trustworthy the writings of the ancient classics even though the earliest MSS. were written so long after the original writings and the number of extant MSS. Is in many instances so small, it is clear that the reliability of the text of the New Testament is likewise assured." Last edited by Lief Erikson : 05-24-2003 at 11:47 PM. |
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Also, it's not very logical to assume that a micro scripture level view is dishonest. Life and science are all complex. If this religion is true, why cannot it be complex sometimes too? If there is an apparent contradiction, it's logical to look closely to see if that's true. Putting relevant passages of the Bible into use and using their logical meanings to understand what the Bible says on a specific issue seems like a fine way to go about it, to me. Last edited by Lief Erikson : 05-24-2003 at 11:42 PM. |
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Do I consider human sacrifice to be bad?.......... Yes, but then again I don't practise it.........so you consider killing the unfaithful or the unGodly bad? Not telling (my business ty) ask a Druid, there are plenty about |
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Of COURSE! Sheesh, you didn't think I was saying you practiced it, did you? I was merely saying that about things that Pagans have done, as this was done in the olden days by Pagans. I figured you thought so, but I wasn't sure. I'm very sorry if you thought I was saying you practiced it. All right, sorry for asking.
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We, on the other hand, in those countries are behaving as Christ would have us do. We are not the oppressors in any of those cases, and you are ignoring the horrible acts of the past which have been done by other nations. Look at the statements of Jesus. They are not about oppression and control, but about love, gentleness and mercy. The contrast between us and the forces that attempt to crush us in those countries are very great. |
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Lief, I hope you're not saying that Christendom hasn't done such things in the past?
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Look to your own shores before you look outwards ........by abiding by the rules of your county, and then criticising others, you're living as a hypocrite Thou shalt not kill! |
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I cannot blame on the Christian religion. God's Word I find to be correct. Our interpretation of God's Word can be faulty, and it is always faulty when we manipulate it to serve our own ends.
We are people. Christians are people and nonChristians are people. People do villainous things. Christians and nonChristians alike. Every human being on this planet is a person, and no person is sinless. This is acknowledged. My question still stands and my opinion remains the same. God's Word is not incorrect, but us, being human, can be. That is why Christians are guilty as well as nonChristians. As a matter of a fact, you are somewhat right in one aspect of Christians being more guilty. We are more guilty because as it says in the Bible that the individual who knows the truth but does not keep it- it would be better for him that he had not known the truth at all. |
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The point I was making is when I jump up and down and say that the bible is real neat and all but it should be taken as a GUIDE for living not as a LITERAL text book that can not be interpreted in any other way and that any other open form of thinking goes against it I get either ignored completely or told "shut up yer not christian what do you know." So I felt quoting someone who was christian on this point to show MY point as well was perfectly reasonable. Are you saying its not? Quote:
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