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And don't give the name of Reason to these random selections and observations. Reason is something very, very different.
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07-01-2008, 05:39 PM | #942 | |
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07-01-2008, 05:42 PM | #943 | |
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"Just look at it. The moon is a giant block of blue cheese. It's not moon rock, it's freaking cheese, man! Why do you think it has all those holes? Every time the astronauts launch their pods up there, they load the shuttle full of cheese. Then they sell all the cheese to Costco when they get back to town. How do you think they pay for all those pieces parts it takes to make the dang blasted space ships in the first place!?!!?!?"
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07-01-2008, 05:43 PM | #944 |
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How do you know people are born with a feeling of God?
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07-01-2008, 05:57 PM | #945 |
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I can only give you my perspective and on that before i give it i have met people who have so many belief but none of them truly deny there is a God they just think that God does not like them or something along that lines. Well I was born without knowing my dad but i always felt someone besides my mother who watched and took care of me. I also was always a Christian and had that "child's faith" where at night I would talk to God like he was there with me knowing that He was and sometimes I could even fell like he was laughing with me. This is really hard to explain to non-believers but its one of those things where if you truly open your heart to listen to God you will here Him and even feel Him there with you, the only problem is people do not want to accept that someone loves them enough to be tortured and die so that we could be with Him. I really don't understand why people have such a hard time seeing that God is real and He loves us more then anything and just wants to be with us! People say that God wants us to give up our lives and worship Him, follow Him and have no choice in our lives, but that is not true! God just wants to be with us! When we sing to Him its like when you have a girl/boy friend and you sing to them because you love them. We give offering not because we have to, but because we want to! Its also like when you give flowers to your wife (probably not to the husband lol) its not because you have to but because you love her! Its the same with God He gives us flowers every spring and Hes the one who invented flowers for that matter...if I could I would always give every penny I made to God because thats how much I love Him. This is the best i can explain God to you and what He means to me. I hope this helped to show you that I don't follow a set of rules and beliefs I just follow my Dad like his little boy just wanting to make Him proud...and the cool part is everyday I make Him proud even if i fail and sin.
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07-01-2008, 06:05 PM | #946 | ||
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You asked for God to open the heavens and show himself. The Virgin Mary has done that, internationally photographed and reported worldwide. She appeared to at least a million people of a variety of faiths, accompanied by stars forming circles around her, covered by a halo over her head, sometimes seen carrying the Christ-child in her arms, surrounded by doves and angels shining with light (also photographed, though the brilliance of the glow contrasted with the night sky doesn't make for clear pictures). White smoke smelling of incense rose from the ground, also in plain view and smelled and seen by thousands. You demanded this kind of spectacular show. Your wish is granted. God did it. A million people saw it, including the president of the country and the international press, and blind people and the sick were healed. You have your wish. Think about it. More pictures, and some accounts: http://www.zeitun-eg.org/zeitoun1.htm
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07-01-2008, 06:10 PM | #947 | |
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I can't really comment on your personal faith, but I'll comment on this one.
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In my view, no God. And even if he were there, he would be completely void of influence due to our free will. I'll say it again, it's not the fact that people privately believe in a God, or any other higher being, spirit, you name it, but it is the forceful imposition of such beliefs onto other people who do not share the belief that troubles me. It is especially troubling in religions with a rigid hierarchy like Catholicism and Islam. Less so with Hinduism and Buddhism, which is one of the reasons I believe Buddhism to be the model religion, peaceful and private.
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07-01-2008, 06:10 PM | #948 | |
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07-01-2008, 06:12 PM | #949 |
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And you know this, by way of contrast with the dozens of apparitions you've seen hovering over churches?
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You spelled it correctly, by the way. Nice one .
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07-01-2008, 06:17 PM | #951 |
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Azrael, do you believe that saints from heaven sometimes appear to people on Earth?
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07-01-2008, 06:19 PM | #952 |
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Well, if he believes in the Gospels, then one can only assume.
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07-01-2008, 06:21 PM | #953 | |
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The Egyptian police did a careful investigation for any electronic or technological gadgets within a five mile radius of the church, carefully combing the area to find out if it could be a hoax, and they found nothing.
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07-01-2008, 06:22 PM | #954 |
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ok so that picture is not real? knew it...plus how would someone have a camera waiting to take a picture of an angel that appeared just then...for the first time?
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07-01-2008, 06:23 PM | #955 |
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No. The apparition occurred regularly for over a year. That's why you have so many pictures, and even video footage (on youtube).
EDIT: Hooboy, three people replying at once! Hold on tight!
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07-01-2008, 06:25 PM | #956 |
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hmmm thats very thought provoking..I'd figure that if God were to send one of His own down here for some reason it would be an angel not someone like paul, john, mary or who ever...honestly there is no difference between us and pual and them because we are all sinners and are all saved the same way..through Christ
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*Sigh.* The loss of Maccabees does hurt Protestants.
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Saints in heaven aren't just like saints on Earth, because they're sinless, living completely in heaven, and can see God. That's a big difference. Also, remember that in the scripture it says we'll sit on Christ's throne and reign with him over the nations. That's what the saints in heaven do, so it's only natural they might sometimes want to visit part of their domain .
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