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Old 05-29-2008, 12:23 PM   #941
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Yes, it's a touchy thing; he is macho elf with his m'haid (??) ways and what not. I suppose Abasi and Tabril are like the Hindu Ksatriya class of their people or something. Very rigid and unyielding social classes don't often create the most tolerant and open people.
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Tabrîl isn't exactly the type to make a good mother, really.

She's a warrior too, she just hasn't been insulted quite as much by the others as poor Abasi has!

Edit: Sane, yes, that's fairly close. The m'haid are the Avarin warrior caste, and their society has very strict rules about what's appropriate for them.
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I figured as much. When you two started mentioning what they could and could not learn, as well as what power these other groups held, it made me think of the hindu caste system.

I dunno; if you could make Abasi blush, I think you can make Tabril into a decent mother. Ish.

Either that or have the kid and have other caste members/classes take care of it while you are off being warrior woman. They have that sort of structure too.
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Nami senses impending agrument and has changed the subject!

clever! lol
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Hey! Andreas, Ellysa lend you her precious materials and even offered to help stitch you up! (And I dare say: if you'd allowed her to help you, it would have hurt less. The bottle with liquid she dipped the point of the needle in contained stuff that numbs the flesh )

She doesn't take sides. Duh!
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Such anger towards Quickleaf Nami...

What can a guy do.. against such.. reckless anger (pun)
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Hey! Andreas, Ellysa lend you her precious materials and even offered to help stitch you up! (And I dare say: if you'd allowed her to help you, it would have hurt less. The bottle with liquid she dipped the point of the needle in contained stuff that numbs the flesh )

She doesn't take sides. Duh!
I know, thanx, it was a nice gesture from Ellysa towards Quickleaf But you're sitting with Quickleaf's nemesis now..
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Either that or have the kid and have other caste members/classes take care of it while you are off being warrior woman. They have that sort of structure too.
That's precisely what Tabrîl would have done if she had had a child whilst still with her people, yes.

Trusting any of this lot with a baby, though...
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Haha, Sociocultural Anthropology for the win! It's my field after all; I'm glad to be getting practice in it, albeit in a RPG.
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I figured as much. When you two started mentioning what they could and could not learn, as well as what power these other groups held, it made me think of the hindu caste system.

I dunno; if you could make Abasi blush, I think you can make Tabril into a decent mother. Ish.

Either that or have the kid and have other caste members/classes take care of it while you are off being warrior woman. They have that sort of structure too.
Spot on It does remind of the caste system. Well Quickleaf is of the latest generation on Middle Earth and he doesn't care too much for the rigid, conservative ways of older elves.
It's not about not understanding old, redundant ways, it's about not accepting it Enlightenment and all that
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Blablabla, nemesis schnemesis. That's just wounded pride talking *isn't listening*

Say Aika (or Rinke) could you maybe compile a short list with all the foreign terms we had thrown at us up till now and provide it with a short explanation or something?
I'm having trouble keeping up.

BTW, we reached a 1000 posts. Eärniel, I have chocolate cookies here...
Hmmm, where did I put that picture of a frog again? Sorry Earn, I couldn't resist teasing you a bit
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i was thinking since you called Nami a kar whats its (babysitter) Nmai has a job! not that she would do it!

Note Nami form for agrueing! avoid all difficult/ bad or threatening questions!
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Er...Nami confuses Tabrîl terribly by refusing to be easily classified.

Yay for cultural anthropology, Sane! *has taken a few classes in that herself*

Mari, sure, I'll write up an explanation and send to you.
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Nami class is a jack of all trades!
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Haldis is still waiting for Radagast to respond to her report...

*sets out a sneaky assortment of pralines and caramels to lure Earniel back here*

Otherwise she'd be pestering Tabril to go underground. Politely pestering of course.
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Yes, Ingwionis and Amael were married from the start.

3 more posts in LLL till we reach the 1000 posts mark by the way.
Yep, when did he start out anyway. I think it was like a year ago or something. Anyway, back then in the RPG we were married, not in real life. Then as of pretty much a couple of days ago we are totally married.

We have the 1000 posts mark topic go locky rule on my hubby's site too. I think he got the idea from here, but who knows.

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...As well as the fellowship's general population, I'm sure.

I can't see Redplate in any sort of longterm anything, but hey; a quick jump in the sack is more than welcome with him!

I'm still wondering whether or not the fellowship members will have to take turns changing A'mael's and Ingwionis' baby's diaper..
Just imagine if they didn't use diiapers as we know them today. Instead of it taking a few minutes it ends up taking a few hours. "Okay, Ingwionis, gather up the stupid leaves so we can put a stupid diaper together and like connect it together with like straw or something so a few hours later it will fall apart and we'll have to do it all over again." It's like taking 3 hours to prepare a camcorder for recording and only shooting 2 hours of video for all your effort. Meanwhile you're already sweating buckets of sweat just getting the camera prepared. Ya, it's prettty much like that.

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Heh, no joke. Though you have to admit, the whole premise of the story is that we are off to find the women folk for the ents so they can what? Multiply!

Maybe the...er... natural theme of the quest is affecting the members?
It's like "Ingwionis, finding Entwives for the Ents to .... ya know ... is making me horny. Better go out and gather some straw and stuff so we can um, ya know." That was terrible, I'm sorry. Actually I'm not, I think it's all pretty funny. 53X was probably just as much a joke back then as it is these days. When you look at the faces people make during, when and after, you can't help but to laugh once the blood returns to your head and the realization comes to you "look at that face he just made, hahaha hahaha ha, I hope my face wasn't as comical." For those who are too young to follow, or for those who live in a nation that has morals enough to at least be reasonable with the age at which people start finding this stuff out, it's best thatt you don't follow what I'm talking about. And yes, I used 53X to cover up a word that I don't say in public, oh well.

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some how i dont think Abasi and Tabril will be having kids just yet! but i think Abasi would make a good dad he was very nice to Ellysa and to Nami once just before Quickleaf got all crazy on everyone!
Abasi is a pretty nice guy in the story. Just misunderstood as many end up becoming. I think the party pretty much has all good guys in it. And I'm not just kissing butt here, because I don't do thatt. Only thing is, I'm still having trouble with remembering names. I get Ecthelion and Glorfindel confused quite often enough as it is, eventhough they're completely differentt and one destroyed a Balrog and the other ... destroyed a Balrog too.

Elyssa and Nami seem to really be the friendliest in the story.

The thing about Ingwionis is I can't get much from his personality in the sttory. He's hard to read, at all. Maybe his personality is "whooooooh, let's fight off the castellans, we need to fight them off because I've never fought one before and it would be interesting whoooooh, if I can't fight a castellen then I'll need to come up with an excuse to fight one whoooh!" I'm just poking fun, but really, just like the army of the dead, "I must ffight something that it seems like I fear but really don't and use that for an excuse to fight castellans and show bravery whoooh!"

I just hope that when we head out on our journey to the next spot that we don't come up with some other loophole in Tolkien's writings that brings us to fight sometthing that probably should have not existed since Sauron and the Witch-King died. In Ingwionis' one post, he mentions different "fiefdoms" of Rhun, and some of them have gone to war with each other. So naturally, if that's confirmed later on, we'll end up fighting charioteers or something obvious like that. I don't have the gift of foresight, but I see where that whole idea is going already. We didn't see too much of the charioteers and most probably aren't satisfied with hearing about the Balchoth fighting Rohan before it like because Rohan, so I envision a gladiator match like that on, the Kurt Russell film "The Gladiator" like when some guys got all chopped up by the spikes and spokes of charioteer horsemen's chariots. I hope if we do fight something it's not going to distract from the quest.

So far if I've got it right, we fought spiders. Ingwionis got poisoned, he just had to get poisoned. Then Ingwionis ran into a suit of armor in the form of a castellan and it pretty much just fell apart for what seemed like no reason, and Ingwionis had his dreams affected by them. Somehow I think the spider poison kind of has something to do with all that.

A bar fight might be a good scene down the road though. We end up in a tavern or something in the east, Ingwionis and Abasi pick fights with some of the jerk Rhun people in the tavern, and an all-out brawl ensues that ends up looking like a Jackie Chan fight, except in Middle Earth, but still with the use of chairs and other props like thatt.

How large is the fellowship now? Is it large enough to be called a military company, a regiment, or what? By the time the story is over, we will have returned with a brigade or a division seeing as how Ingwionis and I will have had 2 of our own kids and everyone else will probably end up with 1 or 2 of their own as well. If the adventure lasts for a few decades, it isn't hard to imagine seeing the party bloom to 300 people. "8000 that are here yet 15 that set out from Rosgobel, tell me who are all these people, for I much desire to know where they came from. And don't tell me that it all happened as a result of a Balrog of Morgoth."

However, Arwen Evenstar was supposed to be the last Elf to be born in Middle Earth according to some writings (insert quote here). But Galadriel also said that the quest of the One Ring would claim Frodo's life, and that prophecy was wrong, so I guess anything can happen.

Ingwionis having two wives, that seems remarkably strange. I think one way to make it work is have his first wife in the story be human instead of Elven. That way there's no chance of the "oh by the way honey, funny story and I'm sure you'll just die of laughter, but this is my new wife A'mael" which would be quite a funny moment. It'd make a good sequel to the RP and it'd be probably the first Tolkien-based sitcom.
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Just imagine if they didn't use diiapers as we know them today. Instead of it taking a few minutes it ends up taking a few hours. "Okay, Ingwionis, gather up the stupid leaves so we can put a stupid diaper together and like connect it together with like straw or something so a few hours later it will fall apart and we'll have to do it all over again."
That's easy, just use cloth nappies; wash and reuse.
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ya for bar fight!
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Amael, Ingwe, congrats on getting married!

And I agree with Sane, using cloth diapers is much more sensible. Ellysa can babysit. Though I don't know if she'll like that.
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