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Whoops, missed your post Browners.
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I don't think you can appeal directly to the Supreme court here either. Quote:
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12-05-2005, 07:57 PM | #922 |
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how do you spell TOPIC again?
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I heart you BB.
On topic now. But in my defence, the original law discussion was in relation to gay rights in the USA and Canada.
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12-06-2005, 09:04 AM | #925 | |
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But: 1. discrimination exists on the workplace; we know that from the statistics 2. discrimination is overt in the government (marriage, military, second parent adoption...) 3. derogatory remarks against gay people are still rampant, even in school 4. violence against LGBT people because of their orientation exists |
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12-06-2005, 09:11 AM | #926 |
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but then it is true about most any peoples....poles, germans, jews, arabs, etc. etc. etc. from times ancient and modern.
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12-06-2005, 09:37 AM | #929 | |
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.....it ain't about to change anytime soon by review of current trends.....
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12-06-2005, 10:56 AM | #930 | |
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and yes, they can refuse to hear cases... most often because they believe that the issue needs to be hashed out more in the lower courts before being presented to them (i.e. the particular case might not be illustrative enough of a particular issue)
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it took african americans and women a good 100+ years after their fights began... and the fight for gay rights is relatively recent what will finally bring about change is familiarization... 50+ years from now, all the people still living will have grown up in an environment where equal treatment of gays is almost a given... they will all have seen openly gay people in the media and in real life since they were born... and much like we are a generation that is 95% use to viewing blacks as perfectly "normal"... so will a few generations from now view gays
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12-06-2005, 11:26 AM | #933 |
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Hear hear. I too hope, and believe, it will be so. The more the general public are exposed to "out" GLB people just doing normal things, the more this will be the case.
HOWEVER, there remains much to do, especially in certain sectors, and I'm thinking about religious and cultural attitudes here. Today I read how a Jamaican AIDS worker and gay rights activist was murdered in his own home. The police are refusing to recognise that it was a homophobic attack. |
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look i don't want to debate on the gay marriage thing man, i just was posting on the legality of the majority, and the actual rights issue. i guess that discussion was off topic, i don't really have a big opinion on gay marriage i guess its like my cynical professor said, if he has to suffer marriage he figures everyone else should; just to make sure we have equal suffering for all.
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And the Supreme Court can deny certiorari (ie refuse to hear the case) if fewer than 4 of the 9 justices want to hear the case. Usually it is denied if they feel the lower court got it right and there is no need for the Supreme Court to get involved. Quote:
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I get the case thing now, thanks CC and Brownie.
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Gay people will be accepted a lot sooner in North America and Europe than other places though (I'm quite sure there will be exceptions, but generally). Change will come eventually though.
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12-07-2005, 12:10 PM | #938 | |
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Personally why not just ship 'em all to France. don't get yer knickers up in a snot, it's only my pre coffee mind working now
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These girls wanted to so badly they had to sue the KoC for injury for refusal to rent the hall!!!! OH CANADA!
http://magicstatistics.blogspot.com/...-columbus.html Hey, Nurv, is that Canadian policy now - since it isn't law- to get 1000 $(Canadian) for injured feelings? I could get a load off entmoot if my skin wasn't so thick! edit: then I found these less radical comments: http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/003054.html edit 2: then there's this for jolly old E http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...910542,00.html
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