Writing using Tengwar characters - Page 46

littleadanel · 10-26-2005, 02:03 PM

HA! Purchased a chisel-point pen - with some difficulties, cuz I didn't know the correct expression for it in my language (it wasn't in the dictionary...) so I had to explain what I exactly want. However, the lady in the shop was very kind and knew at once what I was talking about. So now I have a three-piece set of calligraphy pens.

LOVE my new calligraphy pens!

And Tengwar are FUN! And BEAUTIFUL!

So... let me try some links...

Linky 1...

Linky 2...

Linky 3...

Hope they'll work. Edit: *wipes forehead* yup, they do

So... *sheepish* these are my Tengwar

brownjenkins · 10-26-2005, 02:24 PM

impressive!

you write in tengwar about ten times as legibly as i write in english

littleadanel · 10-26-2005, 02:38 PM

Hey, you haven't seen my real handwriting...

Terrible. And it gets worse as I become more and more tired during a class

Tengwar are almost drawings, especially if I want them really beautiful.

***RÃan*** · 10-26-2005, 04:01 PM

Very beautiful, Littleadanel! I see we have another Silmarillion fan among us

I especially like the last one - "lasse lanta" (leaf-fall, Autumn)

***Earniel*** · 10-26-2005, 05:35 PM

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.

Only a short while and you're writing tengwar everywhere, the 'moot, paper, rocks, ....

***RÃan*** · 10-26-2005, 05:54 PM

(people visiting RÃ*an's house - "what are those strange markings on that dog?")

Hey, EÃ¤rniel, I wrote out the title of our rpg in Tengwar - now I just have to get my stupid scanner working! I thought it might be fun to put on the formal info page - what do you think?

***Earniel*** · 10-26-2005, 06:02 PM

Be my guest, but remember that to my knowledge the IMG-code doesn't work in the RPG-forum.

***RÃan*** · 10-26-2005, 06:04 PM

oh, rats - I guess it will have to be a linky-link then.

(If I can get the scanner to work!!)

Too bad - that would be cool to have kind of a "title page" for the formal info thread...

trolls' bane · 10-26-2005, 10:52 PM

I had some calligraphy pens once. I used them for Tengwar, until they were either lost or broken.

littleadanel · 10-27-2005, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RÃ*an

Very beautiful, Littleadanel! I see we have another Silmarillion fan among us

I especially like the last one - "lasse lanta" (leaf-fall, Autumn)

Thank you! That's my favourite, too

Quote:

Originally Posted by EÃ¤rniel

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.

Oh, I'm already a lost case

It all started when a 15-year-old girl, unconscious of the future, sat down to read The Hobbit... and here she is, 19, writing in Tengwar and claiming that the best day of fall break gonna be Monday when she's gonna buy 2 of the HoME series. Sheesh

Wait, WAIT!! I just realized something! Monday... 31st October... right before 1st Nov, which is an official holiday... hope shops WON'T be closed on 31th!!

No, no, NO, they can't!!

*bangs head on desk* I can't believe this. If they are closed, I'll have to wait until winter break to get near to a decent foreign-language bookstore. *bangs head repeatedly*

*sigh*

At least I have my brand new calligraphy pens...

Embladyne · 10-27-2005, 10:37 AM

EllemirÃ« wrote me a poem to set to music, and I've been transliterating it into Sarati. It's an interesting task because the only mode Tolkien wrote was for English, and the mode someone made up for Quenya is extremely incomplete.
So, I'm trying to make a better mode for Quenya. And as much as it's frustrating, it's really incredibly fun.

I'll post the poem when I'm finished, even though it's written in Sarati, not Tengwar.

***RÃan*** · 10-27-2005, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleadanel

...and claiming that the best day of fall break gonna be Monday when she's gonna buy 2 of the HoME series.

oooh, which ones?!

* whispers "Morgoth's Ring!!" *

***RÃan*** · 10-27-2005, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Embladyne

EllemirÃ« wrote me a poem to set to music, and I've been transliterating it into Sarati. It's an interesting task because the only mode Tolkien wrote was for English, and the mode someone made up for Quenya is extremely incomplete.
So, I'm trying to make a better mode for Quenya. And as much as it's frustrating, it's really incredibly fun.

Tolkien wrote a Quenya mode, Embladyne - do some searches on my links at the beginning of this post - let me know if you need help

I just never paid much attention to it because I never tried to learn the languages - I just decided I better stick to English-mode Tengwar to get my elf fix.

Embladyne · 10-27-2005, 12:25 PM

All the info I've found says that Tolkien only wrote an English mode for Sarati, and I've searched a lot of sites.
For Tengwar there is certainly a Quenya mode, but the only examples of Sarati writing I've found are in English. A friend is scanning some more examples for me to look at, so I'll see if they differ.

littleadanel · 10-27-2005, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RÃ*an

oooh, which ones?!

* whispers "Morgoth's Ring!!" *

Uh, well, it depends on which ones I can find... (I seriously hope that even if the smaller bookstores have a 4-day weekend, at least the big ones in shopping centres don't. Drat.)

But I was thinking Morgoth's Ring. Really

And maybe... Peoples of ME... Gosh, I wish I could buy ALL. Sadly I can afford only two at the moment.

brownjenkins · 10-27-2005, 12:45 PM

i second rÃ*an's choice... one of the best of those

littleadanel · 10-27-2005, 12:47 PM

Oh, and I found a great website of writing systems!

Here it is...
(Or maybe it's new only for me?)

Anyway, I found it fascinating. There are the 'real' languages, some invented ones, and quite many systems of languages used in fictions. Sarati as well... but I'm afraid only the English mode.

littleadanel · 10-27-2005, 03:33 PM

Ah well. Shops open or not, no book buying, or at least so it seems right now

'Cause, dad wasn't glad about calligraphy pens. Especially after I told him the price. *sigh* I should've told him about it before buying it, I know now, silly me... I just wanted to surprise him, maybe draw something for him... Well, the surprise part worked out.

And, to stay on topic, tonight's question in Tengwar...

Of course, it's a bit more complicated than that... maybe I'll move to the venting thread...

***Earniel*** · 10-27-2005, 03:50 PM

aw, poor littleadanel. It's always a bummer when surprises don't work out.

I had a few moments today and thought I'd practise my tengwar and angerthas. No, I lie, I really didn't want to start cleaning because the vacuum cleaner broke and the old replace vacuum cleaner is a veritable monster out of hell and I hoped it would be gone if I didn't think of it.

My tengwar is so rusty that it rusted through completely. Embarassingly bad. Never did practise enough. But I still got angerthas in my fingers. Those two years of writing rune-letters really did give good result.

Did anyone else ever try to write in angerthas? They're a little more straight forward than tengwar.

littleadanel · 10-27-2005, 04:06 PM

Yeppers, I've tried them also

it's just that whatever I try, are pretty good for English, but not for Hungarian. At least 3 sounds (2 vowels and a consonant) always missing. Maybe I should go back to ancient Hungarian runes to write in Hungarian... I learned them a coupla years ago... hmm...

Edit: after a little rambling on the venting thread, I feel way better. Tomorrow I'll dive into runes and enjoy my pens. At least I should.

And now I'll go to watch CSI.

10-26-2005, 02:03 PM	#901
littleadanel of the House of BÃ«or Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eastwards. Posts: 979	HA! Purchased a chisel-point pen - with some difficulties, cuz I didn't know the correct expression for it in my language (it wasn't in the dictionary...) so I had to explain what I exactly want. However, the lady in the shop was very kind and knew at once what I was talking about. So now I have a three-piece set of calligraphy pens. LOVE my new calligraphy pens! And Tengwar are FUN! And BEAUTIFUL! So... let me try some links... Linky 1... Linky 2... Linky 3... Hope they'll work. Edit: wipes forehead yup, they do So... sheepish these are my Tengwar __________________ I'm good in bed - I can sleep for days Last edited by littleadanel : 10-26-2005 at 02:04 PM.

10-26-2005, 02:24 PM	#902
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	impressive! you write in tengwar about ten times as legibly as i write in english __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

10-26-2005, 02:38 PM	#903
littleadanel of the House of BÃ«or Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eastwards. Posts: 979	Hey, you haven't seen my real handwriting... Terrible. And it gets worse as I become more and more tired during a class Tengwar are almost drawings, especially if I want them really beautiful. __________________ I'm good in bed - I can sleep for days

10-26-2005, 04:01 PM	#904
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Very beautiful, Littleadanel! I see we have another Silmarillion fan among us I especially like the last one - "lasse lanta" (leaf-fall, Autumn) __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

10-26-2005, 05:35 PM	#905
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. Only a short while and you're writing tengwar everywhere, the 'moot, paper, rocks, .... __________________ We are not things.

10-26-2005, 05:54 PM	#906
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	(people visiting RÃan's house - "what are those strange markings on that dog?") Hey, EÃ¤rniel, I wrote out the title of our rpg in Tengwar - now I just have to get my stupid scanner working! I thought it might be fun to put on the formal info page - what do you think? __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«? Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

10-26-2005, 06:02 PM	#907
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Be my guest, but remember that to my knowledge the IMG-code doesn't work in the RPG-forum. __________________ We are not things.

10-26-2005, 06:04 PM	#908
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	oh, rats - I guess it will have to be a linky-link then. (If I can get the scanner to work!!) Too bad - that would be cool to have kind of a "title page" for the formal info thread... __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

10-26-2005, 10:52 PM	#909
trolls' bane Entmoot Secretary of the Treasury Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Campsite-by-Giraffe Posts: 5,408	I had some calligraphy pens once. I used them for Tengwar, until they were either lost or broken. __________________ KI6PFA Amateur Radio Operator

10-27-2005, 10:37 AM	#911
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	EllemirÃ« wrote me a poem to set to music, and I've been transliterating it into Sarati. It's an interesting task because the only mode Tolkien wrote was for English, and the mode someone made up for Quenya is extremely incomplete. So, I'm trying to make a better mode for Quenya. And as much as it's frustrating, it's really incredibly fun. I'll post the poem when I'm finished, even though it's written in Sarati, not Tengwar. __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

10-27-2005, 12:25 PM	#914
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	All the info I've found says that Tolkien only wrote an English mode for Sarati, and I've searched a lot of sites. For Tengwar there is certainly a Quenya mode, but the only examples of Sarati writing I've found are in English. A friend is scanning some more examples for me to look at, so I'll see if they differ. __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

10-27-2005, 12:45 PM	#916
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	i second rÃ*an's choice... one of the best of those __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

10-27-2005, 12:47 PM	#917
littleadanel of the House of BÃ«or Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eastwards. Posts: 979	Oh, and I found a great website of writing systems! Here it is... (Or maybe it's new only for me?) Anyway, I found it fascinating. There are the 'real' languages, some invented ones, and quite many systems of languages used in fictions. Sarati as well... but I'm afraid only the English mode. __________________ I'm good in bed - I can sleep for days

10-27-2005, 03:33 PM	#918
littleadanel of the House of BÃ«or Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eastwards. Posts: 979	Ah well. Shops open or not, no book buying, or at least so it seems right now 'Cause, dad wasn't glad about calligraphy pens. Especially after I told him the price. sigh I should've told him about it before buying it, I know now, silly me... I just wanted to surprise him, maybe draw something for him... Well, the surprise part worked out. And, to stay on topic, tonight's question in Tengwar... Of course, it's a bit more complicated than that... maybe I'll move to the venting thread... __________________ I'm good in bed - I can sleep for days

10-27-2005, 03:50 PM	#919
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	aw, poor littleadanel. It's always a bummer when surprises don't work out. I had a few moments today and thought I'd practise my tengwar and angerthas. No, I lie, I really didn't want to start cleaning because the vacuum cleaner broke and the old replace vacuum cleaner is a veritable monster out of hell and I hoped it would be gone if I didn't think of it. My tengwar is so rusty that it rusted through completely. Embarassingly bad. Never did practise enough. But I still got angerthas in my fingers. Those two years of writing rune-letters really did give good result. Did anyone else ever try to write in angerthas? They're a little more straight forward than tengwar. __________________ We are not things.

10-27-2005, 04:06 PM	#920
littleadanel of the House of BÃ«or Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eastwards. Posts: 979	Yeppers, I've tried them also it's just that whatever I try, are pretty good for English, but not for Hungarian. At least 3 sounds (2 vowels and a consonant) always missing. Maybe I should go back to ancient Hungarian runes to write in Hungarian... I learned them a coupla years ago... hmm... Edit: after a little rambling on the venting thread, I feel way better. Tomorrow I'll dive into runes and enjoy my pens. At least I should. And now I'll go to watch CSI. __________________ I'm good in bed - I can sleep for days Last edited by littleadanel : 10-27-2005 at 04:10 PM.

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