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IMO, it is a testament of those who experienced the times. Each saw and wrote as they interpreted things. Some items may be totally correct while others may be wrong if only for spelling or personal recollection. The overall 'story' of the book is not History but history and His Story.
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Well, the history channel _has_ been known to muddle the facts when it doesn't fit their worldview.
They quite often do bios on biblical characters. They usually follow this pattern. So and so is described in the Bible as being this way. But was he really _that_ way.... So and so may not have been this way, but we do know he did such and such... Was so and so this way, as tradition says, or are historians correct in saying that he was _that_ way... |
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Well, the history channel _has_ been known to muddle the facts when it doesn't fit their worldview.
They quite often do bios on biblical characters. They usually follow this pattern. So and so is described in the Bible as being this way. But was he really _that_ way.... So and so may not have been this way, but we do know he did such and such... Was so and so this way, as tradition says, or are historians correct in saying that he was _that_ way... |
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This topic is kinda off topic - but all I'm saying is this:
The bible is not 100% reliable. That is just silly, and in my opinion, people should not be taken seriously who believe that. Saying that everything is correct and "100 % reliable" is just the same as just discarding all of it. And you gave an example that is most certainly not "100% reliable" The description for the show I watched a month or so ago: Quote:
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This topic is kinda off topic - but all I'm saying is this:
The bible is not 100% reliable. That is just silly, and in my opinion, people should not be taken seriously who believe that. Saying that everything is correct and "100 % reliable" is just the same as just discarding all of it. And you gave an example that is most certainly not "100% reliable" The description for the show I watched a month or so ago: Quote:
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You seem to find it so ludicrous that someone would believe that the Bible is 100% accurate, yet you haven't given one concrete reason for saying so. Other than its just silly...which isn't a valid point of argument.
And saying that the billions of people in history who have considered the Bible to be the inspired Word of God cannot be taken seriously is truly ridiculous. |
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You seem to find it so ludicrous that someone would believe that the Bible is 100% accurate, yet you haven't given one concrete reason for saying so. Other than its just silly...which isn't a valid point of argument.
And saying that the billions of people in history who have considered the Bible to be the inspired Word of God cannot be taken seriously is truly ridiculous. |
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Atheistic Evolution: The Facts
Atheistic evolution assumes a number of things, and not everyone realizes them.
1. Because of Conservation of Matter and Energy, the sum total of matter and energy in the universe has always existed from the dawn of time. 2. Life spontaneously arose from this "primidorial soup" of nonliving matter, and it spontaneously evolved into complex creatures. 3. Humans somehow evolved culture, and every other animal didn't. These beliefs seem to require as much faith as Chrisianity...and Christianity seems like a much more attractive religion-don't you think so?
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Atheistic Evolution: The Facts
Atheistic evolution assumes a number of things, and not everyone realizes them.
1. Because of Conservation of Matter and Energy, the sum total of matter and energy in the universe has always existed from the dawn of time. 2. Life spontaneously arose from this "primidorial soup" of nonliving matter, and it spontaneously evolved into complex creatures. 3. Humans somehow evolved culture, and every other animal didn't. These beliefs seem to require as much faith as Chrisianity...and Christianity seems like a much more attractive religion-don't you think so?
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Why should we believe to the Bible, if we don't believe in God? The whole book is based on God. We don't know if there's a God, then why believe a book that's based on that belief..?
There are parts proven right that's written in the Bible.. but it proves nothing about the other parts, IMO. You can see bias in the Bible, too - look at Chronicls... the book is obviously pro-Judah, it ignores David's and Solomon's sins for instance.. Going to Kings(1) chapters 11-12, in the first chapter the reason for the creation of 2 seperate kingdoms is Solomon, later in chapter 12 the reason becomes Rehoboam, his son. Then there's this verse, 15, probably put there by the editor, explaining the inconsistency. And I find the book Job quite an evidence as well... God was kind of mean there. I'm not saying they can't be explained, I'm sure the problems can be if you're creative enough.. And there are plenty more... and of course there are things that happened not that long ago like WW2.. IMO it should make anyone wonder what's the proof for God. And then, the Bible based on God. |
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Why should we believe to the Bible, if we don't believe in God? The whole book is based on God. We don't know if there's a God, then why believe a book that's based on that belief..?
There are parts proven right that's written in the Bible.. but it proves nothing about the other parts, IMO. You can see bias in the Bible, too - look at Chronicls... the book is obviously pro-Judah, it ignores David's and Solomon's sins for instance.. Going to Kings(1) chapters 11-12, in the first chapter the reason for the creation of 2 seperate kingdoms is Solomon, later in chapter 12 the reason becomes Rehoboam, his son. Then there's this verse, 15, probably put there by the editor, explaining the inconsistency. And I find the book Job quite an evidence as well... God was kind of mean there. I'm not saying they can't be explained, I'm sure the problems can be if you're creative enough.. And there are plenty more... and of course there are things that happened not that long ago like WW2.. IMO it should make anyone wonder what's the proof for God. And then, the Bible based on God. |
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