11-05-2008, 03:14 PM | #901 |
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Ok thats my one emotional post for the decade.
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11-05-2008, 03:14 PM | #902 | |
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He then proved it by giving them Government for a while.
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11-05-2008, 03:19 PM | #903 | |||
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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11-05-2008, 03:21 PM | #904 |
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
11-05-2008, 05:13 PM | #905 | |
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Oh, I hope not. I've worked on a lot of campaigns. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But this has been the most empowering one, ever. I was calling gotv in Virginia, yesterday...it was an honor to talk to each one of those folks. *tears*
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That would be the swirling vortex to another world. Cool. I want one. TMNT No, I'm not emo. I just have a really poor sense of direction. (Thanks to katya for this quote) This is the best news story EVER! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26087293/ “Often my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint.”...John McCain "I shall go back. And I shall find that therapist. And I shall whack her upside her head with my blanket full of rocks." ...Louisa May |
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11-05-2008, 06:08 PM | #906 | |
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I was really glad to see that both he and McCain focused on unity during their speeches and I hope they do follow through on the promises of working together. I think that would go a long way towards pacifying people angered by Obama's win.
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11-05-2008, 07:19 PM | #907 | |
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Do I detect a whiff of inconsistency, again? By the way, what 'morality police'-ing are you referring to?
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11-05-2008, 08:48 PM | #908 | |
The one true King of the human race, direct descendant of Adam and heir to the kings of old. "You owe me your fealty." The Tar Minyaturion
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Well get ready for a disappointment.
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Obama is a judas goat!!! the sooner we all realise that the better off we will be. It is going to be alot worse. This Dick Cheney cousin is going to sell us down the river, him and the rest of his CFR buddies. Marshall law, marshall law...it's coming. Now that the government has the peoples trust again they can go ahead an have another false flag terrorist attack (a nuke?) or even assinate Obama to cause serious racial disaster (race war) in america and declare marshall law. Just remember I told you so...meet the new guy, same as the old guy. It doesn't matter that he is black, he is still a puppet.
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11-05-2008, 09:17 PM | #909 |
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El. Tel, is there nothing left but armed rebellion?
Really, enquiring minds want to know.
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That would be the swirling vortex to another world. Cool. I want one. TMNT No, I'm not emo. I just have a really poor sense of direction. (Thanks to katya for this quote) This is the best news story EVER! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26087293/ “Often my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint.”...John McCain "I shall go back. And I shall find that therapist. And I shall whack her upside her head with my blanket full of rocks." ...Louisa May |
11-05-2008, 11:37 PM | #910 | |
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No kidding Sorry, guys - there's no "neutral" here. Moralities are based on worldviews - which are personal opinions. This includes atheism and agnosticism, as well as "religions".
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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11-06-2008, 02:20 AM | #911 |
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All I can say is -
Though currently going through severe polling withdrawal....
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11-06-2008, 02:31 AM | #912 |
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And, cute- that county in North Carolina, where Sarah Palin made her remarks about how great it was to be among Real Americans in the pro-America part of the country?
Obama 59% McCain 40% http://edcone.typepad.com/wordup/200...l-america.html
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11-06-2008, 05:15 AM | #913 |
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I'm quite surprised by the feeling of total euphoria that seems to be everywhere. And not just among the Americans.
But I hope people's expectations aren't put too highly. The financial crisis, the wars and America's reputation aren't going to be resolved quite as easily.
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11-06-2008, 09:48 AM | #914 |
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I agree Earn. We put Obama in the job, now we have to make sure he has our help to do it.
McCain understood that, and I hope acts on it.
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That would be the swirling vortex to another world. Cool. I want one. TMNT No, I'm not emo. I just have a really poor sense of direction. (Thanks to katya for this quote) This is the best news story EVER! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26087293/ “Often my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint.”...John McCain "I shall go back. And I shall find that therapist. And I shall whack her upside her head with my blanket full of rocks." ...Louisa May |
11-06-2008, 01:30 PM | #915 | |
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Arm rebellion would be a disaster
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The only thing you can do is get as informed as you can. Get independent of government and social services;get out of the cities, grow your own food, have your own water and energy supplies (solar panels, wind turbines) and get out of dollars and into gold and silver and other commodities. Expose them with documentaries on the issue to create awareness in them and the rest of the population so they can't carry out plans without it being obvious; let them know you are not suckered by Obama.
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11-06-2008, 02:18 PM | #916 |
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Well thank goodness Obama didnt go to YOUR church...
Sorry telc. Silly delusional pseudo religious diatribes arent required as a response to EVERY event that happens in this country. Stick to the JFK and UFO conspiracies before you overwhelm yourself. Frankly I dont think Obama can walk on water and I do think he will fail and comprimise many times over the next four years but geez Ill take a million of that over one of what we got any day...
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11-07-2008, 10:43 AM | #917 |
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From the Onion, the only truly fair and balanced news source...
"Obama Win Causes Supporters to Realize How Empty Their Lives Are...." http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...embedded_video
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11-07-2008, 11:54 AM | #918 |
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That was from my first post on the issue. I never suggested that I would or could kill anyone so how do you get a threat from me in that? Don't throw stones at the messenger America is the vehicle of it's own destruction.
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Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Ecclesiasticus 2:1-5 1 My son, if thou come to serve the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation... ...4 Whatsoever is brought upon thee take cheerfully, and be patient when thou art changed to a low estate. 5 For gold is tried in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of adversity. Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; Last edited by Nurvingiel : 11-16-2008 at 05:33 PM. Reason: Response to deleted post and personal attacks. |
11-07-2008, 03:11 PM | #919 | |
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I know you think you sound very reasonable, but to us you don't. You're coming off as very emotional and irrational, as well as incendiary. I think you're stuck in an unhealthy way of thinking about the world. You seem to view it very bleakly. I hope that sometime soon you'll find it in you somewhere to trust humanity a little.
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11-07-2008, 04:28 PM | #920 | |
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That's why they did things like cover the private parts of classical statues and obsess over things like the ten commandments, homosexuality, and other christian idyosyncracies. To be sure, many democrats have pet issues they'd like to try to universalize but, unlike the republicans, they are much less unified and much more live and let live. As a result, no single morality will be enforced and each and every part of the US will be free to practice their own, as it should be.
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