11-05-2004, 01:52 PM | #881 |
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Okay guys, here's the way it is: the election is over. Discuss, be civil. Otherwise, I see no reason to leave the thread open.
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11-05-2004, 01:59 PM | #882 | |
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Sorry, Just caught that, mein leader. Cheers.
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11-05-2004, 02:14 PM | #883 |
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The BEST MAN won.
George W. Bush won by a popular vote margin of over 3,500,000 votes.
The NeoCommies were rejected soundly by the American voter. The United States had no use for a worn-out traitor who met with North Vietnamese officials in Paris while US troops were still trying to keep Vietnam from being overrun by Communist thugs. Result? Over one million innocents butchered in South Vietnam when the Communists overran the Republic of Vietnam, over four million slaughtered in the Killing Fields of Cambodia. The United States is a nation at war, and as a result, now Afghanistan is free and the people of Iraq are close to free elections. The War on Terror continues under the steady command of a true MAN. Many of you are too young to remember the damage that Kerry, Fonda, ad nauseum caused to this nation, and to the cause of Freedom worldwide. Fortunately for this nation, and for the nations seeking to free themselves from the despotic grip of terror, the majority of voting Americans remembered. This nation is once again safe, and the Freedom of Israel, Taiwan, Afghanistan, and Iraq are guaranteed. The Liberation of Lebanon, Syria, Iran, and North Korea await us all. Face one additional fact: Over FIFTY MILLION SOULS are Free today because George W. Bush stood up and took the war straight to the sponsors of Terror. I, for one, and as a speaker for the majority of this nation, am proud to have done my part to elect such a strong and decisive Commander of our military forces, and I look forward to the revamping of Social Security (and its preservation for many of you younger folks), as well as the complete overhaul of our abusive and byzantine tax code. Rest well, Americans and the Free World. The terrorists and the despots toss and turn in nightmares at the resolve of the Greatest Nation to Ever Grace This Earth. America, Hope of the Planet, marches forth united and strong. The NeoCommies, Islamofascists and Tyrants tremble at the sight of her armies issuing forth to spread the blanket of Freedom over the nations of the world! God Bless Geroge W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Condoleezza Rice, Afghan President Armad Karzai, and Iraqi Prime Minister Allawi! LET FREEDOM REIGN!
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11-05-2004, 02:17 PM | #884 |
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Frankly Fenir... I don't think you have any reason to complain about the posts of others.
Nor do I think it's proper to publicly post PMs which other members send you. The 'P' stands for 'private' you know... And when I check your posts from, oh the past 24 hours or so... a good number of them suggest that you're shadowing JD and posting sarcastic remarks in response to his posts. Not trying to pick a fight, are you?
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11-05-2004, 02:39 PM | #885 |
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Bopous - have you been lurking around? You aren't on anymore and even when you were - you weren't in GM much. It is great that Bush was re-elected.
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11-05-2004, 02:45 PM | #886 | |
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JD mentioned them first, and all I did is to reply in kind. [Edited]
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11-05-2004, 02:50 PM | #887 |
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Question to the floor: When did "morals" become simply a euphemism for being against abortion and gay marriage? And more broadly, why do conservatives think they have a monopoly on moral issues (since it apparently won them the election)? Arent moral issues bigger then that? arent there plenty of immoral conservatives and plenty of moral democrats? isnt wanting to save the environment being moral? or feeding the hungry? helping the poor? why have we allowed one political group to rewrite the definition of morality exactly?
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11-05-2004, 02:52 PM | #888 |
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Valandil -
He seems to not know his on geography. Waterford is in southern coastal Ireland - nowhere near northern Ireland. I wonder - does anyone really think that Ireland is part of the UK?
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11-05-2004, 02:57 PM | #890 | |
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Oh, I'm sorry. Did that offend you. Well I never, and so on...
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11-05-2004, 02:59 PM | #891 |
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And with that, I am going to sleep.
Carry on Yanks. carry on. Eventually you'll even convince your selves...
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Some of us just consider certain thing to be the places where we, as a nation, are really missing the mark on morality... like abortion, for instance. 150 years ago, many conservative Christians were also focused on a single moral issue... they were called 'Abolitionists' - and were widely derided for it. So... we just take the issues as they come. And no, I don't think anyone is claiming a monopoly... but some feel it their duty to make an issue of a particular thing they see as wrong.
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Im the one attempting to say no one should really have a monopoly on doing the right thing. thats my whole point. Quote:
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That seems to be the big difference between democrats and republicans. I freely give money and time to charities - I just don't want the government TAKING my money from me and doing what they think is the 'right" thing.
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11-05-2004, 03:30 PM | #895 |
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I work (ed) hard for my money and don't want the government giving it to those who have made a lifestyle of taking entitlements. Lyndon Johnson really screwed this country good.
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11-05-2004, 03:41 PM | #897 |
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I'm sorry to say I'm making the decision to close this thread. The election is over, and despite the attempt of some to remain on topic, too many people are continuing to engage in off topic posting and flame baiting. Those seeking polite political discourse may move to another appropriate thread or may start a new thread if one does not already exist. I will remind everyone AGAIN not to make posts of a personal nature and to remain on topic in all threads. Thank you.
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