"Temporary" Venting Thread IV - Page 44

***Tessar*** · 06-03-2009, 05:47 PM

I'm getting increasingly angry about this stupid Dr. Tiller thing. It is absolutely horrifying that someone shot him.

But that does not suddenly turn every anti-abortion supporter into a gun-toting maniac that will KILL TO SAVE THE BABIES.

I think abortion is murder, but I certainly have no intention of committing the same crime myself to prevent it from happening. But it seems like all people can say is how the killer represents the mentality of all pro-life people.

Of course it doesn't drive me any more nuts than how most of the right-wing people I know seem to get a thrill out of demonizing the left-wingers. And the left-wingers demonizing the right-wingers.

Why the hell does everyone want to demonize everyone else? It's not enough to just dislike Obama, you have to HATE him and ridicule every thing he says. I sure don't like him, but I DON'T GO AROUND SPOUTING ON AND ON ABOUT IT. Nor do I blame him for every ill that happens.

Similarly it's not enough to disagree with someone who's pro-life, they have to be an 'arrogant dumb***' for having a different set of morals. What a progressive way to think.

People are dumb and go looking to make drama when it's utterly unneeded.

**Mari** · 06-03-2009, 06:06 PM

Polarization makes things easier to believe and assume.
Historically there were two sorts of propaganda among warring countries: 1) portray the enemies as beasts that you could slay without problem since they were absolute evil and the world needed to be freed of them or 2) portray them as great warriors, valiant, difficult to overcome and it's only because we are so much better that we can defeat them.
The propaganda used was based on the audience. I don't think that will ever change, silly as it may be. We are all so similar...

***Tessar*** · 06-04-2009, 03:02 PM

I got five fillings today on the left side of my mouth, and while I'm grateful to live in a society where I can have all of my teeth remain intact, and grateful to live in a family that can afford to get my teeth taken care of... OH MY GOD MY FACE HURTS SO FREAKING MUCH.

***Earniel*** · 06-07-2009, 03:04 AM

Bloody, bloody administration. It's bad enough I have to get up before 7 in the morning on a Sunday to present myself at the voting station because I'm called up as reserve to man it. However, if you want me to be at the right station, don't change the rooms from what it says on my official documentation! If it says in thick letters room F017, I will be at F017. If I'm not on the list there, I vote and go home. If it turns out, that no, I was not just reserve, I was the first on the list, meant to man the station, in room F018, don't be mad that I'm not there before a reserve takes my place! Besides, you could just have poked your head outside and called my name if you so desperatedly needed me.

If I get fined for not manning the station, someone's going to get it!

***VarnafindÃ«*** · 06-07-2009, 05:44 AM

They changed the room and never told you?

Do they expect you to read their thoughts?

Bureaucrats ...

***Valandil*** · 06-07-2009, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tessar

I'm getting increasingly angry about this stupid Dr. Tiller thing. It is absolutely horrifying that someone shot him.

But that does not suddenly turn every anti-abortion supporter into a gun-toting maniac that will KILL TO SAVE THE BABIES.

I think abortion is murder, but I certainly have no intention of committing the same crime myself to prevent it from happening. But it seems like all people can say is how the killer represents the mentality of all pro-life people.

Of course it doesn't drive me any more nuts than how most of the right-wing people I know seem to get a thrill out of demonizing the left-wingers. And the left-wingers demonizing the right-wingers.

Why the hell does everyone want to demonize everyone else? It's not enough to just dislike Obama, you have to HATE him and ridicule every thing he says. I sure don't like him, but I DON'T GO AROUND SPOUTING ON AND ON ABOUT IT. Nor do I blame him for every ill that happens.

Similarly it's not enough to disagree with someone who's pro-life, they have to be an 'arrogant dumb***' for having a different set of morals. What a progressive way to think.

People are dumb and go looking to make drama when it's utterly unneeded.

I don't know if I'd lay this totally at their doorstep, but frankly, I think the media feeds a lot of this polarization. They're the ones who play up each and every thing, who harp on the red state/blue state thing, etc.

I suppose they don't have any stories when we all get along.

***Earniel*** · 06-07-2009, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VarnafindÃ«

They changed the room and never told you?

Do they expect you to read their thoughts?

Bureaucrats ...

I do expect the switching rooms was an honest mistake of the crew that builds the voting booths last night. But the guy in charge of getting the people together to man the station could have done something to make things clearer. He could have hung up a sign saying the rooms had been switched, he could have waited in the corridor and asked people like me who were just arriving if they were the people he was looking for. I was just right across the corridor with a couple of other people and we hung around for half an hour, before the stations opened, like we were supposed to. He does not get to be annoyed with me for waiting exactly where my instructions said I should be. Bureaucrats, pfft.

***Tessar*** · 06-07-2009, 03:49 PM

I am so frustrated with people who have great potential in life but wont put even a toe out of their comfort zone in order to realize their own capabilities.

Then when those people tell me that I don't understand because I'm just 'naturally confident'?... A.) I only look that way because I fake it half the time, and B.) It's because I'm FORCING myself to do it. Not many people ARE just naturally confident and at ease... most people develop the ability to appear that way through effort.

So people who wont work even a little to realize their own potential can bite me

.

***Jonathan*** · 06-07-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tessar

I am so frustrated with people who have great potential in life but wont put even a toe out of their comfort zone in order to realize their own capabilities.

As long as you're successfully tapping your own talents, you shouldn't feel too downhearted

Keep up the good work!

***Valandil*** · 06-08-2009, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RÃ*an

Isn't it ironic how people who impose themselves on other people (and probably don't pay rent?) give such a hard time?

Sorry, GW! Well, at least you're a comfort and help to your mom!

Well, after 51 days - FIFTY-ONE! - we finally got an offer in writing from the insurance company representing the truck driver that crashed into us and totaled our new car, trailer, and 3 quads.

And they have the NERVE to say the rental car that they are giving us (since they DESTROYED our car) will only continue on through this Friday.

OK, so you say that the claim was complicated and that's why you took FIFTY-ONE days to get a claim to us, then expect US, in FOUR days, to analyze the claim, discuss it with you, come to an agreement, sign the papers, wait for the check in the mail, find a new car, buy it, and wire it up for a scooter lift for our son?

Sorry, buster - you guys took FIFTY-ONE days - we're not getting bullied into FOUR!

You will receive our counter-offer in a few days because we're trying to do this in a timely manner and get over it, but our counter-offer will include, among other things, you providing a rental car through a week AFTER we get the check from you

Jerks.

Rian - any updates on the insurance issue and getting all the stuff straightened out?

***RÃan*** · 06-09-2009, 01:50 AM

Tessar - ouch! I hope your poor mouth is better 0--0

(closed eyes and swollen cheeks)

Earniel - I'm sorry for you, but that is just SO government it's hilarious!! What, they should actually do something SENSIBLE?! What are you THINKING?!?!

Val - thanks for asking - we've been in intense negotiations the last coupla days, and they have not extended the rental van offer (but they don't know we got it for free until Wednesday through the negotiations of our friend). I'm still gonna fight for that, especially since what we're working on now is because THEIR adjustor made some mistakes.

We've agreed on over half the points, and I have some more numbers to send to them tomorrow (I should get paid for doing THEIR work

but at this point, I'd rather get it done faster). I'm fairly optimistic that we'll agree by the end of the week.

My foot, however, is not good news - looks like I might have gained about all I'll gain of mobility, and I'll have permanent less use of the foot

I'll see the surgeon Wednesday to talk about another surgery vs. living with what I have.

I can't believe it ...

***Earniel*** · 06-09-2009, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RÃ*an

Earniel - I'm sorry for you, but that is just SO government it's hilarious!! What, they should actually do something SENSIBLE?! What are you THINKING?!?!

Yeah, silly me for trying to apply logic to the government.

Sorry to hear about your continued foot-trouble, though.

And the incompetent insurance jerks.

**Mari** · 06-09-2009, 10:36 AM

How mobile are you now, Rian? I mean: how much can you do before you need to sit down? Is it livable?
I hope something can be done though. Stupid how one little accident can cause such a thing!

***VarnafindÃ«*** · 06-09-2009, 10:47 AM

Sorry to hear that, Rian!

***RÃan*** · 06-09-2009, 03:42 PM

I'm pretty good walking around for short periods of time - sometimes now it even doesn't hurt, and I think eventually it won't hurt at all, but my balance is really shaky because I can't get the inward movement of the foot going. Most people can rotate their toes inward about 45 degrees, and I can only get about 5-10 degrees. I'm hoping all the nerve pain stuff will go away, too.

***Tessar*** · 06-10-2009, 07:26 PM

Hang in there, Rian. My thoughts and prayers are definitely still with you on the foot thing... just keep striving, and maybe you'll continue to improve. I can think of lots of cases where peoples injuries were not expected to continue to improve, but they kept at it and things did get better. *HUGS*

**Mari** · 06-17-2009, 03:57 PM

I'm a bit sad because everyone here forgot my birthday yesterday

***RÃan*** · 06-17-2009, 08:15 PM

I wasn't on yesterday with all my insurance and health problems

Sorry! (check over at the bday thread now

)

Thanks, Tessar - the owner of the physical therapy place took over my case, and is doing VERY aggressive manipulation. It's really painful, but we're starting to get a little inversion back! We're both exhausted after he works on me.

AikanÃ¡ro · 06-20-2009, 05:15 AM

Hope it's ok if I rant here. I need somewhere to.

So, this week I ended up very ill. I went to watch a football game, and ended up standing in the sun for a long time because the people I was with didn't want to sit in the shade, further from the pitch.

But everything was fine until I started walking home (alone, as I left early). I didn't realize it, but I was really dehydrated, and my temperature started rising really quickly - and I ended up with dizziness, headache and blurred vision and I was scared I was going to just faint there in the road. Add to the fact that we've had no rain in ages and the road was pretty much just sand and I kept almost tripping over...I honestly have no idea how I managed the half hour walk home.

But I did, anyway, and even though I'm completely exhausted I stay up to drink lots of sugar water and very sweet tea. Then I want to sleep - but Peter, who lives across the road from us, is visiting, and playing incredibly loud rap music. I turn the radio down, and he isn't pleased, and turns on the generator and the TV - with even louder music - and refuses to turn it down. I can't sleep, and I'm feverish and getting a little freaked out by this point. I wanted to go and sleep outside by this point - not too comfortable, but quiet. The others at home won't let me, though, because of the small chance a wild animal might come into our compound.

Eventually Peter's mother tells him to turn the generator off. He does - and puts on a battery-powered TV instead. It's on until 11.30 at night (for context, every other night I've been here, everyone has been in bed by 9) and by that time I'm not only sick but really stressed too and not thinking straight and it was just...not fun.

Peter's response when I was asking him to turn his TV down, if not off - 'Is it my fault you're sick? Did I make you sick?'

If I get sick again I might just go to a hotel. *sigh* Sorry for the crazily long rant.

***Earniel*** · 06-20-2009, 05:46 AM

Not a great specimen of humanity, that kid. Maybe he'll get sick one of these days and then you get to repay the favour.

But why nobody else asked Peter to turn that racket off if there's a sick houseguest in the house, is beyond me.

I hope you feel better now.

06-03-2009, 06:06 PM	#862
Mari Elf Lady Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In the lands where mountains are but a fairytale Posts: 8,588	Polarization makes things easier to believe and assume. Historically there were two sorts of propaganda among warring countries: 1) portray the enemies as beasts that you could slay without problem since they were absolute evil and the world needed to be freed of them or 2) portray them as great warriors, valiant, difficult to overcome and it's only because we are so much better that we can defeat them. The propaganda used was based on the audience. I don't think that will ever change, silly as it may be. We are all so similar... __________________ Love always, deeply and true ★ Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer. ★ Friendship is sharing openly, laughing often, trusting always, caring deeply. ...The Earth laughs in flowers ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Hamatreya"...

06-07-2009, 03:04 AM	#864
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Bloody, bloody administration. It's bad enough I have to get up before 7 in the morning on a Sunday to present myself at the voting station because I'm called up as reserve to man it. However, if you want me to be at the right station, don't change the rooms from what it says on my official documentation! If it says in thick letters room F017, I will be at F017. If I'm not on the list there, I vote and go home. If it turns out, that no, I was not just reserve, I was the first on the list, meant to man the station, in room F018, don't be mad that I'm not there before a reserve takes my place! Besides, you could just have poked your head outside and called my name if you so desperatedly needed me. If I get fined for not manning the station, someone's going to get it! __________________ We are not things.

06-07-2009, 05:44 AM	#865
*VarnafindÃ«* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	They changed the room and never told you? Do they expect you to read their thoughts? Bureaucrats ... __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

06-09-2009, 01:50 AM	#871
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Tessar - ouch! I hope your poor mouth is better 0--0 (closed eyes and swollen cheeks) Earniel - I'm sorry for you, but that is just SO government it's hilarious!! What, they should actually do something SENSIBLE?! What are you THINKING?!?! Val - thanks for asking - we've been in intense negotiations the last coupla days, and they have not extended the rental van offer (but they don't know we got it for free until Wednesday through the negotiations of our friend). I'm still gonna fight for that, especially since what we're working on now is because THEIR adjustor made some mistakes. We've agreed on over half the points, and I have some more numbers to send to them tomorrow (I should get paid for doing THEIR work but at this point, I'd rather get it done faster). I'm fairly optimistic that we'll agree by the end of the week. My foot, however, is not good news - looks like I might have gained about all I'll gain of mobility, and I'll have permanent less use of the foot I'll see the surgeon Wednesday to talk about another surgery vs. living with what I have. I can't believe it ... __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

06-09-2009, 10:36 AM	#873
Mari Elf Lady Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In the lands where mountains are but a fairytale Posts: 8,588	How mobile are you now, Rian? I mean: how much can you do before you need to sit down? Is it livable? I hope something can be done though. Stupid how one little accident can cause such a thing! __________________ Love always, deeply and true ★ Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer. ★ Friendship is sharing openly, laughing often, trusting always, caring deeply. ...The Earth laughs in flowers ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Hamatreya"...

06-03-2009, 05:47 PM	#861
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	I'm getting increasingly angry about this stupid Dr. Tiller thing. It is absolutely horrifying that someone shot him. But that does not suddenly turn every anti-abortion supporter into a gun-toting maniac that will KILL TO SAVE THE BABIES. I think abortion is murder, but I certainly have no intention of committing the same crime myself to prevent it from happening. But it seems like all people can say is how the killer represents the mentality of all pro-life people. Of course it doesn't drive me any more nuts than how most of the right-wing people I know seem to get a thrill out of demonizing the left-wingers. And the left-wingers demonizing the right-wingers. Why the hell does everyone want to demonize everyone else? It's not enough to just dislike Obama, you have to HATE him and ridicule every thing he says. I sure don't like him, but I DON'T GO AROUND SPOUTING ON AND ON ABOUT IT. Nor do I blame him for every ill that happens. Similarly it's not enough to disagree with someone who's pro-life, they have to be an 'arrogant dumb***' for having a different set of morals. What a progressive way to think. People are dumb and go looking to make drama when it's utterly unneeded.

06-04-2009, 03:02 PM	#863
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	I got five fillings today on the left side of my mouth, and while I'm grateful to live in a society where I can have all of my teeth remain intact, and grateful to live in a family that can afford to get my teeth taken care of... OH MY GOD MY FACE HURTS SO FREAKING MUCH.

06-07-2009, 03:49 PM	#868
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	I am so frustrated with people who have great potential in life but wont put even a toe out of their comfort zone in order to realize their own capabilities. Then when those people tell me that I don't understand because I'm just 'naturally confident'?... A.) I only look that way because I fake it half the time, and B.) It's because I'm FORCING myself to do it. Not many people ARE just naturally confident and at ease... most people develop the ability to appear that way through effort. So people who wont work even a little to realize their own potential can bite me .

06-09-2009, 10:47 AM	#874
*VarnafindÃ«* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	Sorry to hear that, Rian! __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

06-09-2009, 03:42 PM	#875
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	I'm pretty good walking around for short periods of time - sometimes now it even doesn't hurt, and I think eventually it won't hurt at all, but my balance is really shaky because I can't get the inward movement of the foot going. Most people can rotate their toes inward about 45 degrees, and I can only get about 5-10 degrees. I'm hoping all the nerve pain stuff will go away, too. __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

06-10-2009, 07:26 PM	#876
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Hang in there, Rian. My thoughts and prayers are definitely still with you on the foot thing... just keep striving, and maybe you'll continue to improve. I can think of lots of cases where peoples injuries were not expected to continue to improve, but they kept at it and things did get better. HUGS

06-17-2009, 03:57 PM	#877
Mari Elf Lady Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In the lands where mountains are but a fairytale Posts: 8,588	I'm a bit sad because everyone here forgot my birthday yesterday __________________ Love always, deeply and true ★ Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer. ★ Friendship is sharing openly, laughing often, trusting always, caring deeply. ...The Earth laughs in flowers ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Hamatreya"...

06-17-2009, 08:15 PM	#878
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	I wasn't on yesterday with all my insurance and health problems Sorry! (check over at the bday thread now ) Thanks, Tessar - the owner of the physical therapy place took over my case, and is doing VERY aggressive manipulation. It's really painful, but we're starting to get a little inversion back! We're both exhausted after he works on me. __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

06-20-2009, 05:15 AM	#879
AikanÃ¡ro Chaotic Good Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mar Vanwa TyaliÃ©va Posts: 827	Hope it's ok if I rant here. I need somewhere to. So, this week I ended up very ill. I went to watch a football game, and ended up standing in the sun for a long time because the people I was with didn't want to sit in the shade, further from the pitch. But everything was fine until I started walking home (alone, as I left early). I didn't realize it, but I was really dehydrated, and my temperature started rising really quickly - and I ended up with dizziness, headache and blurred vision and I was scared I was going to just faint there in the road. Add to the fact that we've had no rain in ages and the road was pretty much just sand and I kept almost tripping over...I honestly have no idea how I managed the half hour walk home. But I did, anyway, and even though I'm completely exhausted I stay up to drink lots of sugar water and very sweet tea. Then I want to sleep - but Peter, who lives across the road from us, is visiting, and playing incredibly loud rap music. I turn the radio down, and he isn't pleased, and turns on the generator and the TV - with even louder music - and refuses to turn it down. I can't sleep, and I'm feverish and getting a little freaked out by this point. I wanted to go and sleep outside by this point - not too comfortable, but quiet. The others at home won't let me, though, because of the small chance a wild animal might come into our compound. Eventually Peter's mother tells him to turn the generator off. He does - and puts on a battery-powered TV instead. It's on until 11.30 at night (for context, every other night I've been here, everyone has been in bed by 9) and by that time I'm not only sick but really stressed too and not thinking straight and it was just...not fun. Peter's response when I was asking him to turn his TV down, if not off - 'Is it my fault you're sick? Did I make you sick?' If I get sick again I might just go to a hotel. sigh Sorry for the crazily long rant. __________________ Vanima i metta nauva, nan anda ar sarda nauva i mallÃ«.

06-20-2009, 05:46 AM	#880
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Not a great specimen of humanity, that kid. Maybe he'll get sick one of these days and then you get to repay the favour. But why nobody else asked Peter to turn that racket off if there's a sick houseguest in the house, is beyond me. I hope you feel better now. __________________ We are not things.

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