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Thanks for the info, Hobbit. Sounded like you were saying that they were silly for thinking so; sorry for misreading you.
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The bank of "everlasting life" you ninny! not money! I don't understand the middle sentence you made!
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Oops. Beg pardon.
Erhem, yes...that SHOULD have read: "you think there is NOTHING you cannot understand". Dread mothly lord make typo.
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Hehehe.
Hardly.
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Actually, the difference is that bar is male, and bat is female.
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Man JerseyDevil is posting everywhere!
And y'know....I don't think I've ever heard you swear before, JD.
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Here we disagree. BoP/Sheena is right -- unless a person accepts Jesus, they won't get into heaven. Even if they've never heard about God or Jesus.
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Just for everyone's info, the sentence "no man cometh to the Father but by me" is not interpreted "that way" by all denominations. There are those that read it differently, that he is saying "what I'm going to do is the only way everyone is going to be saved," not "Everyone who doesn't believe in me is going to Hell." I'm sure there are passages that can support either view, but I just thought I'd throw that into the mix for everyone's ponderation, that there are Christians out there that interpret that sentence differently than others.
Oh, and the "put your eyes out" passage can also be interpreted as Jesus using a strong visual image to get across an important point to people for whom a lot of these concepts were new and very foreign. I'm not saying it isn't true, that He didn't mean it literally necessarily, but that I don't think He expected everyone to put their eyes out (we'd all be blind ). He was trying to stress the importance of what He was saying, and He was saying lusting in your heart is just as bad as actually doing it, so don't do it. He said the sentence in question to drive the point home to the people He was addressing. Just letting everyone know there are different ways of interpreting that among Christians. |
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Not to mention the eye for an eye stuff! Then everyone would be very, very blind. Not good.
But anyway. I feel there haven't been very complete answers in some places, especially from Rian and Gwaimir. I certainly appreciate the effort made by both of you, don't get me wrong! However, I feel there could be more complete answers. First, Rian, about the "fluffy god" stuff. Quote:
It's been said many a time before, but I'm going to go off on my broken record thing again. . .how can God be considered loving, etc, when to not accept God is to go to Hell? How does is this "good" for the people, "God's children?" Instead of loving, even in a sort of parenting kind of way, this seems like a jealous, selfish god. "Accept me or suffer! I want you to worship only me! All other gods are false!" It's all through the bible, it seems, like with the golden calf. False idols and so on. And here I'm referring to God, not the Holy Trinity, and therefore including the Judaism. It's Old Testament stuff I'm referring to. Anyway. So, could you explain this to me? Please? I'd really appreciate it, because all the evidence I've heard thus far points to God being quite selfish and jealous, rather than loving. Oh, and P.S. Rian, hope your parents anniversary went well! Ok, Gwai, your turn Earlier HOBBIT was asking about the Christian faith being considered the best and the only true one, above others: Quote:
I don't think you really answered THIS question, though you addressed it. I dunno if you were trying to, or not, but I'd love an answer, from you or any of the other Christians. Quote:
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Argh... Confusing - everyone's got JD's avatar. Did I do something very bad today, or something?
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I think that would be a horible life to live, in someone elses footsteps.
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Are you religious?
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