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well, usually science tecahers are either really nice great teachers, jerks, plain stupid, or completely insane. Sometimes a combination.
Why is it the school's responsibility? plus, legally, here in the us they really can't teach religion except from a historical veiwpoint. Besides, we are very diversified here. In my school, there must be AT LEAST 5 different religions, maybe more. You CANNOT teach the Jewish, Christian (although practically the same exact thing i think), Muslim (same thing?), Hindu (differnt), other Indian myths and creation stories, budhist theory, other theories, etc. Historically i have no problem with any religion being taught... but the other stuff is for religious school.
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Are you saying that it is the PUBLIC school's job? OF COURSE IT IS NOT. It is the PARENT's job to send their kid to either a private school that includes religion or a separate religious school. OR if they want they can raise their kids atheists - whatever - im just saying if they want to introduce some religion. So in what way should religion be taught in public schools? And if there is to be no preaching, what good would it do anyway?
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Religion and religious teachings should always been kept in its proper setting, as either a history of religion class, or as a religious education class as part of a faith church/synagogue/mosque. And not taught at the expense of taxpayers.
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I disagree. Cultural evolution is just as interesting, and important as the biological side of it. I believe that it is important to cover all the bases, not just the science of our development, but also the history - and I believe that a study of the modern forms of religion would fit quite well in a social studies, or history class.
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You disagree with who?
I said that it should and is taught in history - also runiel as well. I took world history this year - we learned about budhists, christians, jews, greek, roman, indian religions - and many other religions and other ways of thinking and living. We learned historically about the start of the christian faith and obviously about the byzantine empire, etc. We also learned a lot about Muslims. We also studied in detail the many reformations and the protestant movement and other sects. Basically we covered a lot of the bases of MANY religions concerning the hsitory behind it and what exaclty they believe. Just NO preaching what-so-ever. It is not being taught that any of the religions are right.
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I was disagreeing with Ruinel, because she stated that it should be confined to private instituations, and not at the expense of the tax-payer. I think that it should be in public schools because our history, and cultural development is just as important as the biology of our development.
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But I agree that a sociology class might also be appropriate, as well as a social studies class. ![]() I also agree with Hobbit, no preaching allowed. ![]() |
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Do you mean to tell me that I got on my soap box for nothing. *deflated look* Oh well, it was time for my annual bath anyway. Now where did I put my rubber chicken?
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Heh heh heh. Beautifully said, BoP.
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Hey all,
Just wanted to say that I guess it is all a matter of opinion.(oh,and I never said,cassi,that evoution was c***.....) Both Christianity and evoution have many followers,SOME evidence, and both make sense in their own ways. So,there you go ![]() ![]() ![]() ~Giroth |
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You mean CREATIONISM and Evolution. Evolution is not necessarily contradictory to Christianity; I believe that God created mankind, and the heavens, and the earth. But I believe that he must have created them SOME way, and that it might have been evolution. I just personally learn towards Creation, because as Rian said, it seems to me to fit more with Him.
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And there is not SOME, there is A LOT of evidence for evolution. but you are welcome to your opinion....
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well, that is our nature :P
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I would agree, except for the godless part. Someone who does not believe in the supernatural cannot very well be anything BUT godless, I would think...
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