Classical Music II - Page 44

***Tessar*** · 11-02-2009, 07:26 PM

Good GRIEF!!!!! That is absolutely un-human. I can't even think of a real word for it

. It is literally not something you expect a human to be able to do. Awesomeness.

Gwaimir Windgem · 11-02-2009, 07:30 PM

I know, her ease of her coloratura, the control she shows over her voice are just amazing.

But, more importantly, the beauty of the final product is something which verges on the transcendent.

Gwaimir Windgem · 11-15-2009, 01:44 PM

Marie Nicole Lemieux has a new Vivaldi CD coming out! I can't find any info on it, but hey, Lemieux + Vivaldi is enough to make me want it.

Gwaimir Windgem · 11-15-2009, 01:45 PM

And Jaroussky is doing JC Bach, too, apparently. Okay, Jaroussky Bach, Lemieux Vivaldi, Genaux Vivaldi. Gods, how is one to make a choice?!?!

Non-Handelian early music seems big right now. Also a Porpora CD from Karina Gauvin, and of course Ceci's Sacrificium. Sandrine Piau, however, is staying true to Il Caro Sassone, it seems.

***Tessar*** · 11-15-2009, 04:12 PM

Oh, Philippe...

*swoon*

***Tessar*** · 01-18-2010, 05:51 PM

There are just no words to describe how incredible this is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1PMzQ8PuCo

Renee Fleming singing Song to the Moon. You know I'm not always a big Fleming fan, but this is by a mile and a half the best I've ever heard.

***Varnafindë*** · 01-18-2010, 08:27 PM

It deserves better speakers than what I've got on my laptop ...

The final part of it was just amazing.

***Tessar*** · 01-18-2010, 10:39 PM

Isn't it incredible? I get chills every time I listen to those last few phrases. It's just so moving.

It's also worth mentioning that her opening bow is practically a work of art. I've watched it over and over trying to figure out exactly what she's doing, and it's basically just a really, really smooth way of doing all of the stuff they taught us at the acting camp about using your point of focus and changing it several times while introducing yourself. It's very worth studying.

She walks out, stops with her body facing center BUT she's looking up towards her right. She lets her gaze drop to a mid-point right near the middle, she exhales exactly as she drops her gaze and bows slightly, then comes up with her gaze focused to the left and gives a tiny, gracious nod as she finally turns her gaze fully forwards.

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-23-2010, 09:14 PM

Does anyone have Jaroussky's new JC Bach CD? *looking at Tessar* If so, any thoughts on it? Good music?

***Tessar*** · 01-23-2010, 09:53 PM

No, not yet, but I want it super bad!

I don't recall if I've posted this before, but even if I have, it's worth a repost. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYIfiQlfaas Beautiful music.

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U-mvGcm9Cc because it cracks me up!

hectorberlioz · 01-29-2010, 10:38 PM

Since you guys are all about YouTube, here's one you won't forget easily:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeQHXhGjXGs

Grey_Wolf · 01-30-2010, 06:07 AM

Hi HB!

Some time ago I saw a documentary by Dr Barbara W Freed called Matisse and the nun.

It was about Chapelle du Rosaire de Vence (Chapel of the Rosary), often referred to as the Matisse Chapel or the Vence Chapel, is a small chapel built for Dominican nuns in the town of Vence on the French Riviera.[1] It was built and decorated between 1949 and 1951 under a plan proposed by Henri Matisse.[2] It houses a number of Matisse originals and was regarded by Matisse himself as his "masterpiece." While the simple white exterior has drawn mixed reviews from casual observers, many regard it as one of the great religious structures of the 20th century.

In this documentary a dominican nun tells of her longtime friendship with Matisse.

Now, in the program there was played the most beautiful music and, furthermore, in the end credits the music was listed and that there was a CD called La Musique de Matisse. Presumably containing the pieces played in the documentary.

Could you do me a favour and check if it is possible to get hold of this CD or if Dr Freed can be mailed and then ask her how she got hold of the music.

Most obliged if it was possible.

Best Gw

hectorberlioz · 01-30-2010, 01:20 PM

GW,

I'll have to do a bit of investigating, but I'll see what I can do :-).

Grey_Wolf · 01-30-2010, 01:30 PM

Thanks Hector!

***Tessar*** · 01-30-2010, 06:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMFeLzCjd4M

I like this guy. Nice, warm mezzo-soprano countertenor voice.

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-30-2010, 07:37 PM

I remember I was flattened when I first heard him. I was like, "My God, this isn't a countertenor, this is a mezzo!" Crazy.

I have to say, though, that I think tending to sound so very like a mezzo is a bit of a detriment, simply because a countertenor, no matter how good (and don't get me wrong, he's good!) cannot do a mezzo as well as a mezzo.

Not quite as good a singer, but a similar mezzo-sound, from this fellow.

***Tessar*** · 01-31-2010, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

I have to say, though, that I think tending to sound so very like a mezzo is a bit of a detriment, simply because a countertenor, no matter how good (and don't get me wrong, he's good!) cannot do a mezzo as well as a mezzo.

See, now here we're just going to have to agree to disagree. I don't find that female mezzo voice brings anything 'better' to a role than what a counter-tenor mezzo brings. I think they are both beautiful, while admittedly different qualities, and I would disagree very much with someone saying that a male or female is a superior 'mezzo' sound.

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-31-2010, 06:54 PM

I don't mean the sound. He's got a great sound. I mean the way they sing. In my experience, the great majority of countertenors tend to sound a bit more awkward or strained in coloratura passages than mezzos generally do (the great exception being, of course, Il Jaroussky).

***Tessar*** · 02-01-2010, 05:55 AM

I think that may be a technique thing. I belive a lot of singers have some pretty glaring technical flaws and counter tenors are no exception. It's also easier to hear poor technique in a CT voice because it's such an exposed sound. I do understand your meaning better now

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-16-2010, 10:11 PM

Michael Maniaci has made a solo CD! Okay, now I need to get new CDs by Jaroussky, Genaux, Lemieux, and Maniaci. WHERE IS THE MONEY???

11-02-2009, 07:30 PM	#862
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I know, her ease of her coloratura, the control she shows over her voice are just amazing. But, more importantly, the beauty of the final product is something which verges on the transcendent. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

11-15-2009, 01:44 PM	#863
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Marie Nicole Lemieux has a new Vivaldi CD coming out! I can't find any info on it, but hey, Lemieux + Vivaldi is enough to make me want it. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

11-15-2009, 01:45 PM	#864
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	And Jaroussky is doing JC Bach, too, apparently. Okay, Jaroussky Bach, Lemieux Vivaldi, Genaux Vivaldi. Gods, how is one to make a choice?!?! Non-Handelian early music seems big right now. Also a Porpora CD from Karina Gauvin, and of course Ceci's Sacrificium. Sandrine Piau, however, is staying true to Il Caro Sassone, it seems. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle Last edited by Gwaimir Windgem : 11-15-2009 at 01:49 PM.

01-18-2010, 08:27 PM	#867
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	It deserves better speakers than what I've got on my laptop ... The final part of it was just amazing. __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

01-18-2010, 10:39 PM	#868
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Isn't it incredible? I get chills every time I listen to those last few phrases. It's just so moving. It's also worth mentioning that her opening bow is practically a work of art. I've watched it over and over trying to figure out exactly what she's doing, and it's basically just a really, really smooth way of doing all of the stuff they taught us at the acting camp about using your point of focus and changing it several times while introducing yourself. It's very worth studying. She walks out, stops with her body facing center BUT she's looking up towards her right. She lets her gaze drop to a mid-point right near the middle, she exhales exactly as she drops her gaze and bows slightly, then comes up with her gaze focused to the left and gives a tiny, gracious nod as she finally turns her gaze fully forwards. Last edited by Tessar : 01-18-2010 at 10:53 PM.

11-02-2009, 07:26 PM	#861
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Good GRIEF!!!!! That is absolutely un-human. I can't even think of a real word for it . It is literally not something you expect a human to be able to do. Awesomeness.

11-15-2009, 04:12 PM	#865
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Oh, Philippe... swoon

01-18-2010, 05:51 PM	#866
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	There are just no words to describe how incredible this is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1PMzQ8PuCo Renee Fleming singing Song to the Moon. You know I'm not always a big Fleming fan, but this is by a mile and a half the best I've ever heard.

01-23-2010, 09:14 PM	#869
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Does anyone have Jaroussky's new JC Bach CD? looking at Tessar If so, any thoughts on it? Good music? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-23-2010, 09:53 PM	#870
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	No, not yet, but I want it super bad! I don't recall if I've posted this before, but even if I have, it's worth a repost. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYIfiQlfaas Beautiful music. And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U-mvGcm9Cc because it cracks me up!

01-29-2010, 10:38 PM	#871
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	Since you guys are all about YouTube, here's one you won't forget easily: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeQHXhGjXGs __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

01-30-2010, 06:07 AM	#872
Grey_Wolf Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, well actually I live in North-west Scania, Sweden Posts: 9,481	Hi HB! Some time ago I saw a documentary by Dr Barbara W Freed called Matisse and the nun. It was about Chapelle du Rosaire de Vence (Chapel of the Rosary), often referred to as the Matisse Chapel or the Vence Chapel, is a small chapel built for Dominican nuns in the town of Vence on the French Riviera.[1] It was built and decorated between 1949 and 1951 under a plan proposed by Henri Matisse.[2] It houses a number of Matisse originals and was regarded by Matisse himself as his "masterpiece." While the simple white exterior has drawn mixed reviews from casual observers, many regard it as one of the great religious structures of the 20th century. In this documentary a dominican nun tells of her longtime friendship with Matisse. Now, in the program there was played the most beautiful music and, furthermore, in the end credits the music was listed and that there was a CD called La Musique de Matisse. Presumably containing the pieces played in the documentary. Could you do me a favour and check if it is possible to get hold of this CD or if Dr Freed can be mailed and then ask her how she got hold of the music. Most obliged if it was possible. Best Gw

01-30-2010, 01:20 PM	#873
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	GW, I'll have to do a bit of investigating, but I'll see what I can do :-). __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

01-30-2010, 01:30 PM	#874
Grey_Wolf Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, well actually I live in North-west Scania, Sweden Posts: 9,481	Thanks Hector!

01-30-2010, 06:50 PM	#875
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMFeLzCjd4M I like this guy. Nice, warm mezzo-soprano countertenor voice.

01-30-2010, 07:37 PM	#876
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I remember I was flattened when I first heard him. I was like, "My God, this isn't a countertenor, this is a mezzo!" Crazy. I have to say, though, that I think tending to sound so very like a mezzo is a bit of a detriment, simply because a countertenor, no matter how good (and don't get me wrong, he's good!) cannot do a mezzo as well as a mezzo. Not quite as good a singer, but a similar mezzo-sound, from this fellow. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-31-2010, 06:54 PM	#878
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I don't mean the sound. He's got a great sound. I mean the way they sing. In my experience, the great majority of countertenors tend to sound a bit more awkward or strained in coloratura passages than mezzos generally do (the great exception being, of course, Il Jaroussky). __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-01-2010, 05:55 AM	#879
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	I think that may be a technique thing. I belive a lot of singers have some pretty glaring technical flaws and counter tenors are no exception. It's also easier to hear poor technique in a CT voice because it's such an exposed sound. I do understand your meaning better now

02-16-2010, 10:11 PM	#880
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Michael Maniaci has made a solo CD! Okay, now I need to get new CDs by Jaroussky, Genaux, Lemieux, and Maniaci. WHERE IS THE MONEY??? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

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