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Join Date: Jan 2003
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I can't wait till TTT comes out--the extended version that is. I don't think I will buy the theatrical version this time around. I think I like TTT about as much as FOTR. FOTR was the set up for the next two movies. I can't wait to see it again!
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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i just watched it at the hotel i was staying at. that will satisfy me till august
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Join Date: May 2002
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Did anyone else think Aragorn looked "pudgy" in that Lounger/ pajama outfit or whatever he had on in the Rivendell "love" scene? I thought his bare feet were kind of icky (long curving toes!
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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![]() i realy liked the movie. I didn't think that it was as good as the fellowship but it was still realy good. except i didn't like how they took frodo all the way to osgiliath instead of just the secret hideout of gondor still in ithilian. i can't wait for the return of the king!!!
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Hobbit
Join Date: Aug 2003
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I don't think he looked "pudgy" lol I thought he looked the same, and he's suppose to have "icky" feet he's a ranger. Try spending that much time outside and not get nasty feet. I'll bet they didn't have gold bond foot powder in middle earth!! lol
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Enting
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Born in Lousiville, KY. Living in Laguna, Philippines
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remember that Aragorn isn't supposed to look like a king yet...and btw I thought that Vigo was just about the best Aragorn that I could have thought of.
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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I'm quite sure that it's been mentioned by somebody already for I didn't read through all the 41 pages of this thread and it could be mentioned somewhere else too, but.....
In TTT, the battle at Helm's Deep, it says that the army consists of 10 000 orcs. That was not 10 000 orcs in the movie, it was something about 50 000-100 000 orcs... Too many orcs, there were too many orcs! You may say that it was a minor change, but it bothered me! ![]() So, I'm interested to hear other people's opinions about it and if it has been discussed before, a link to the place it was discussed would be very nice indeed...
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I'm having trouble with the Entmoot website, otherwise I'd look for the huge Helm's Deep discussion for you. I think the trouble comes from the people who normally put hundreds of hours into the site to maintain it are deservedly on vacation.
Anyway, I also had a few issues with that battle, but I also enjoyed it and thought some parts worked really well. I wouldn't mind rehashing those ideas either. I was also thrown off a bit by the excessive quantities of orcs, and the too few Rohirrim. They were outnumbered, but not by that much. We know it's a desparate battle already, sheesh. I really loved the scene where Gandalf comes with Eomer's army. Them charging down the steep slope was an awe-inspiring sight. Cheers! |N|
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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I do think that was a flaw -- they were in love with their computer program that allowed them to bring to life an army of that size, so they had to use it.
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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You would be suprised at what 10,000 people looks like.
But I do agree there were quite a few Orcs there and too few Men. I searched for Helm's Deep and came up with 350 results..
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Seton,Lothlorien Guardian
You would be suprised at what 10,000 people looks like. But I do agree there were quite a few Orcs there and too few Men. I searched for Helm's Deep and came up with 350 results.. [QUOTE] I searched for 10000 and found about 30 results ![]() 10,000 people looks extremely few. It's only 100*100 people. And if they stand quite close to each other they take surprisingly little room. Believe me. Hmmm... I think I should go and talk about this in that Helm's Deep Movie Thread that Cirdan had in his post...
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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![]() I saw TT last night. It is a darkewr movie than LotR BUT then so is the book. Its the nature of the story. I enjoyed Gollum and his schizoid discussion . The battle of Helms Deep well that whole line has so many modern paralells that as ahistorian I could transfer the people opf middle eaarth into any war any time. Foromir is a bit of a disapointment after Boromir but even brothers can't be that alikee. And I am looking forward to the Return of the King mainly to knit up the story.
As fpor Fordo & Sam they just keep on moving.
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Faramir was a bit disappointing too. ~_^ I thought the actor was good, but why did he have to cave in to the power of the ring? He didn't do that in the book. (The character not behaving a certain way in the book is the basis for my only complaints.) Book-Faramir was cool!
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Speaking of dark movies, I recently watched the Frighteners, just because Peter Jackson directed it and I wanted to see if there were any parallels. It was a mediocre Michael J Fox horror/comedy, some of it pretty sadistic. (I like Fox, don't get me wrong, but it was pretty light stuff when not gruesome.) I think PJ has matured considerably as a director (don't flame me!) since then.
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Join Date: Aug 2001
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I did not see this at the theater. For some odd reason I waited for the DVD. I gave FoTR a 7 out of 10(saw at theater, and own DVD). I gave this one (TTT) 8 out of 10.
It was a little slower (kept looking at the clock(not from boredom...more like "if they keep this pace, how in the heck are they going to fit everything in). I did not like the Faramir change...but it did not bother me like it has others. I think the Gimli comedy was a bit overdone...but it did not ruin the film for me. "You'll have to toss me...don't tell the elf!" quote may be wrong, but I liked that one. Treebeard looked awesome! The Black Gate was exactly like I imagined it while reading! The movie was great, the books are great...but they are (and probably have to be) two different things!
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After watching this movie again, it's better than I remembered. Not as good as FotR, but still good. I guess the last 9 months have brought me peace with most of PJ's changes.
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Note: I make no objective argument about the effectivness or 'correctness' of these scenes. I answer the question; "why?", in a mechanical sense.
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Yeah - I knew why he did it. He needed to make LotR into an action movie.
As for the Osgiliath scene with the Nazgul - it still makes no sense - Sauron would have the other eight Nazgul there in a heartbeat. Frodo would never have been able to cross back over and make it back to Mordor.
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