Riddling III - Page 41

Gordis · 12-07-2008, 03:04 PM

Sam's rope?

Boromir's belt?

Noble Elf Lord · 12-09-2008, 12:46 PM

No right guesses yet. Keep riddling...

Gordis · 12-09-2008, 01:52 PM

Lembas?
Miruvor?
Lorien cloaks?
Leaf-shaped brooches?

Noble Elf Lord · 12-09-2008, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis

Lembas?
Miruvor?
Lorien cloaks?
Leaf-shaped brooches?

Sorry, no. Am I too shady again? Unclear? *gives himself a mental bashing*

You're getting closer though.

Midge · 12-10-2008, 08:44 PM

From the fading Twilight
To the new rising light
A mundane thing
Some of the power
Of the Elder within.

I think the point is that it could apply to several things. It seriously sounds like the Lorien cloaks to me. Or maybe Nenya? If you consider a ring a mundane thing.

My question is if it is referring to something specific, or a type of somethings, and when it refers to it.. like.. is it during the Silmarillion or around the Fourth Age? And when you say "Elder" do you mean "Eldar" or the older people or the oldest elves... or what?

Noble Elf Lord · 12-12-2008, 04:21 AM

This refers to one specific item, which is still rather mundane. By the Elder I mean the older Children of Erú.

Gordis · 12-12-2008, 05:57 AM

Sam's dirt-box?

Noble Elf Lord · 12-12-2008, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis

Sam's dirt-box?

Nope. This would be valuable to anyone, not just for this one "Rising light".

Midge · 12-13-2008, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noble Elf Lord

Nope. This would be valuable to anyone, not just for this one "Rising light".

I feel like I should KNOW this. Eerrr....

Noble Elf Lord · 12-13-2008, 05:02 AM

A tip regarding it's value: both thief and king would value it, though a king would value it more, for two things: both the material and it's beauty, whereas the beauty would be likely overlooked by a thief. Note: A thief, not any peculiar one. Same for "the" king.

Gordis · 12-13-2008, 12:05 PM

The new sheath for Anduril?

Noble Elf Lord · 12-13-2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis

The new sheath for Anduril?

No, not that one either. This is much smaller.

Gordis · 12-13-2008, 07:58 PM

Ring of Barahir?

Noble Elf Lord · 12-14-2008, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordis

Ring of Barahir?

Nope.

Oops, I did it again, didn't I?

The riddle points to many objects... then again, it's not smart to make a riddle which you solve immediately.

CAB · 12-14-2008, 07:36 AM

Well, Arwen is called Evenstar and is associated with twilight, and if Sam is a "Rising light" then I must assume that Frodo is too. So, how about Arwen's gift to Frodo?

Gordis · 12-14-2008, 12:22 PM

Well I guess Frodo could hardly be called a "rising light" after the destruction of the Ring. He became an empty shell, only fit to be carried to Valinor on a stretcher.

But it is for NEL to answer.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 12-14-2008, 09:29 PM

Phial of Galadriel?

Midge · 12-14-2008, 10:36 PM

That's already been guessed, DPR. It was a mundane thing. I don't know what you'd call mundane. And I don't know where we're getting our certainty that it comes from LOTR. It could have come from the Silmarillion, as far as I could see.

Gordis · 12-15-2008, 08:10 AM

It could be anything ever given by Elves to Men...

And that is a whole heap of things, some mundane, some not.

Noble Elf Lord · 12-16-2008, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAB

Well, Arwen is called Evenstar and is associated with twilight, and if Sam is a "Rising light" then I must assume that Frodo is too. So, how about Arwen's gift to Frodo?

*Eleven Elven fanfares* That's the one. The "rising light" refers to Hobbits in the sense that they as a people are a rising light, a young and a good people growing stronger. And who else to represent them than Frodo? Forget the fact that he was weakened, he was still a tough Hobbit.

Well reasoned.

12-09-2008, 12:46 PM	#802
Noble Elf Lord Leaf-Crowned Lord Of Elvenpath Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Heaven by the looks of it. Hell by the feel of it. Posts: 1,052	No right guesses yet. Keep riddling... __________________ Hers.

12-10-2008, 08:44 PM	#805
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	From the fading Twilight To the new rising light A mundane thing Some of the power Of the Elder within. I think the point is that it could apply to several things. It seriously sounds like the Lorien cloaks to me. Or maybe Nenya? If you consider a ring a mundane thing. My question is if it is referring to something specific, or a type of somethings, and when it refers to it.. like.. is it during the Silmarillion or around the Fourth Age? And when you say "Elder" do you mean "Eldar" or the older people or the oldest elves... or what? __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

12-12-2008, 04:21 AM	#806
Noble Elf Lord Leaf-Crowned Lord Of Elvenpath Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Heaven by the looks of it. Hell by the feel of it. Posts: 1,052	This refers to one specific item, which is still rather mundane. By the Elder I mean the older Children of Erú. __________________ Hers.

12-13-2008, 05:02 AM	#810
Noble Elf Lord Leaf-Crowned Lord Of Elvenpath Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Heaven by the looks of it. Hell by the feel of it. Posts: 1,052	A tip regarding it's value: both thief and king would value it, though a king would value it more, for two things: both the material and it's beauty, whereas the beauty would be likely overlooked by a thief. Note: A thief, not any peculiar one. Same for "the" king. __________________ Hers.

12-14-2008, 09:29 PM	#817
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	Phial of Galadriel? __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

12-07-2008, 03:04 PM	#801
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Sam's rope? Boromir's belt?

12-09-2008, 01:52 PM	#803
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Lembas? Miruvor? Lorien cloaks? Leaf-shaped brooches?

12-12-2008, 05:57 AM	#807
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Sam's dirt-box?

12-13-2008, 12:05 PM	#811
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	The new sheath for Anduril?

12-13-2008, 07:58 PM	#813
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Ring of Barahir?

12-14-2008, 07:36 AM	#815
CAB Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 306	Well, Arwen is called Evenstar and is associated with twilight, and if Sam is a "Rising light" then I must assume that Frodo is too. So, how about Arwen's gift to Frodo?

12-14-2008, 12:22 PM	#816
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Well I guess Frodo could hardly be called a "rising light" after the destruction of the Ring. He became an empty shell, only fit to be carried to Valinor on a stretcher. But it is for NEL to answer.

12-14-2008, 10:36 PM	#818
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	That's already been guessed, DPR. It was a mundane thing. I don't know what you'd call mundane. And I don't know where we're getting our certainty that it comes from LOTR. It could have come from the Silmarillion, as far as I could see. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

12-15-2008, 08:10 AM	#819
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	It could be anything ever given by Elves to Men... And that is a whole heap of things, some mundane, some not.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Riddling continued	Sister Golden Hair	Middle Earth	1415	11-06-2004 02:32 PM
Riddling.	F.B.-B.	Middle Earth	1980	12-21-2002 10:58 PM